eb2dec2005
09-13 01:49 PM
I incorporated the points you made and the revisions are in fuchsia:
The Ombudsman
USCIS
September 10. 2008
Sir/Madam,
On behalf of the employment-based legal immigrant community in the United States of America, I am writing to highlight the ongoing egregious inefficiencies in the immigration �services� provided by the USCIS and the DOS. There have been numerous occasions when there have been erratic movements in the DOS published visa bulletin dates. This, as we understand it, is owing to USCIS under- or over-estimating the number of applicants available for adjustment of status. And in the rare instances when the date finally moves forward by a substantial window, USCIS tends to approve the more recent applications as opposed to the ones that were filed earlier. Let me explain with an example: in the July 2008 visa bulletin, the cut-off date for the India EB2 category was 01 April 2004. A month later, the cut-off date for Indian EB2 applicants abruptly moved forward two years and was set at 01 June 2006. Instead of approving applicants who applied in 2004 and 2005, USCIS approved applicants from 2006. Where is the justice in that??? Why bother publishing the cut-off date if approvals are to be randomly allocated???
We understand we have to stand in line and wait our turn. Each applicant is assigned a priority date which chronologically determines his/her turn for approval. To further complicate matters, once the I-485 is filed, a crop of other dates are issued by the USCIS � a receipt date, a notice date and a processing date. USCIS then takes the liberty to throw random rules at us � �Case adjudication is based on receipt date� �No, we process applications based on notice date�, �Actually, it�s the processing date that determines which applications are adjusted.� !!!
Please take a moment to consider how these conflicting statements and arbitrary decisions wreak havoc on our morale and psyches? No one, NOT even the USCIS, has a clue as to what exactly is happening in their processing centers. The USCIS has never been able to clearly state the exact number of applications languishing, excuse us, we meant pending, in their �service� centers! We, employment-based immigrants, are tax-paying, law-abiding, educated individuals contributing to America�s knowledge economy - yet we have been subjected to the worst aspects of the US employment-based immigration system. These include:
1) Extended wait times at each step of the immigration process.
2) Lack of transparency on the part of USCIS (re: priority date, receipt date, notice date).
3) Lack of USCIS customer service � once applications are submitted to USCIS they disappear into a black hole. Barring a website where one can nominally check one�s case status (but which in reality remains static for months, even years!) there is no concept of updating an applicant on where his case stands. And this is despite the applicant paying immigration fees that often run into thousands of dollars over the years. We are simply expected to wait in a complete void of information, for however long it may take, until approval.
4) Lost opportunities owing to the lack of job portability during the process (a time period spanning an average of five years, whereas an applicant from any country besides India gets his/her PR card in under two years).
Another inconsistency, surfacing in August 2008, begs redressal � while I-485 applicants (albeit those from 2006 instead instead of earlier years) at the TSC were being approved in a steady stream, the NSC was almost completely inactive resulting in only a very few cases being approved prior to August 20th. After this date, the NSC appeared to completely hold off on all I-485 approvals while approvals continued at the TSC. Could somebody please account for this preferential treatment for I-485 applicants at the TSC versus those at the NSC? Furthermore, when complaint faxes were sent in to the NSC in protest, instead of issuing a formal statement to explain their approach, the NSC retaliated by issuing a bunch of RFEs. Is the USCIS trying to intimidate us so that we remain quiescent??
While we are grateful for the opportunity to partake in the American dream, it is ironic that we arrive in America and find that our freedom is shackled � we are bound to our sponsoring employer from the start to the end of an extremely lengthy process. Although legal immigration reform is our ongoing aim, for now, we sincerely request you to investigate the process whereby the monthly visa bulletin is set and to ensure FIFO (first in, first out) adjustment so that those of us who have been waiting longer receive attention prior to those who have applied later. We want USCIS to be accountable to us, its paying customers.
We request you to lend us your ear and address these issues so that we are not subjected to them in the future. Kindly note that there remain roughly 15 days until the October 2008 visa bulletin goes into affect. Once October arrives, the dates for Indian EB2 candidates retrogress to 2003. We believe you have the power to help a few more of us who have been waiting, seemingly endlessly, to get out of this immigration limbo.
Thanking you,
I really appreciate your initiative in drafting this letter.Please let us know, how each one of us could contribute . Whom should the faxes/emails/pamplets be sent.
The Ombudsman
USCIS
September 10. 2008
Sir/Madam,
On behalf of the employment-based legal immigrant community in the United States of America, I am writing to highlight the ongoing egregious inefficiencies in the immigration �services� provided by the USCIS and the DOS. There have been numerous occasions when there have been erratic movements in the DOS published visa bulletin dates. This, as we understand it, is owing to USCIS under- or over-estimating the number of applicants available for adjustment of status. And in the rare instances when the date finally moves forward by a substantial window, USCIS tends to approve the more recent applications as opposed to the ones that were filed earlier. Let me explain with an example: in the July 2008 visa bulletin, the cut-off date for the India EB2 category was 01 April 2004. A month later, the cut-off date for Indian EB2 applicants abruptly moved forward two years and was set at 01 June 2006. Instead of approving applicants who applied in 2004 and 2005, USCIS approved applicants from 2006. Where is the justice in that??? Why bother publishing the cut-off date if approvals are to be randomly allocated???
We understand we have to stand in line and wait our turn. Each applicant is assigned a priority date which chronologically determines his/her turn for approval. To further complicate matters, once the I-485 is filed, a crop of other dates are issued by the USCIS � a receipt date, a notice date and a processing date. USCIS then takes the liberty to throw random rules at us � �Case adjudication is based on receipt date� �No, we process applications based on notice date�, �Actually, it�s the processing date that determines which applications are adjusted.� !!!
Please take a moment to consider how these conflicting statements and arbitrary decisions wreak havoc on our morale and psyches? No one, NOT even the USCIS, has a clue as to what exactly is happening in their processing centers. The USCIS has never been able to clearly state the exact number of applications languishing, excuse us, we meant pending, in their �service� centers! We, employment-based immigrants, are tax-paying, law-abiding, educated individuals contributing to America�s knowledge economy - yet we have been subjected to the worst aspects of the US employment-based immigration system. These include:
1) Extended wait times at each step of the immigration process.
2) Lack of transparency on the part of USCIS (re: priority date, receipt date, notice date).
3) Lack of USCIS customer service � once applications are submitted to USCIS they disappear into a black hole. Barring a website where one can nominally check one�s case status (but which in reality remains static for months, even years!) there is no concept of updating an applicant on where his case stands. And this is despite the applicant paying immigration fees that often run into thousands of dollars over the years. We are simply expected to wait in a complete void of information, for however long it may take, until approval.
4) Lost opportunities owing to the lack of job portability during the process (a time period spanning an average of five years, whereas an applicant from any country besides India gets his/her PR card in under two years).
Another inconsistency, surfacing in August 2008, begs redressal � while I-485 applicants (albeit those from 2006 instead instead of earlier years) at the TSC were being approved in a steady stream, the NSC was almost completely inactive resulting in only a very few cases being approved prior to August 20th. After this date, the NSC appeared to completely hold off on all I-485 approvals while approvals continued at the TSC. Could somebody please account for this preferential treatment for I-485 applicants at the TSC versus those at the NSC? Furthermore, when complaint faxes were sent in to the NSC in protest, instead of issuing a formal statement to explain their approach, the NSC retaliated by issuing a bunch of RFEs. Is the USCIS trying to intimidate us so that we remain quiescent??
While we are grateful for the opportunity to partake in the American dream, it is ironic that we arrive in America and find that our freedom is shackled � we are bound to our sponsoring employer from the start to the end of an extremely lengthy process. Although legal immigration reform is our ongoing aim, for now, we sincerely request you to investigate the process whereby the monthly visa bulletin is set and to ensure FIFO (first in, first out) adjustment so that those of us who have been waiting longer receive attention prior to those who have applied later. We want USCIS to be accountable to us, its paying customers.
We request you to lend us your ear and address these issues so that we are not subjected to them in the future. Kindly note that there remain roughly 15 days until the October 2008 visa bulletin goes into affect. Once October arrives, the dates for Indian EB2 candidates retrogress to 2003. We believe you have the power to help a few more of us who have been waiting, seemingly endlessly, to get out of this immigration limbo.
Thanking you,
I really appreciate your initiative in drafting this letter.Please let us know, how each one of us could contribute . Whom should the faxes/emails/pamplets be sent.
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reedandbamboo
09-13 12:12 PM
Please check your PM!
santb1975
11-30 03:42 PM
Everyone - Please come forward with your contributions
Sent 100$ via Paypal.
Thanks
Sent 100$ via Paypal.
Thanks
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InTheMoment
08-21 04:29 PM
Visa number is only "assigned" after all kinds of review and background checks are done. This is by far the last step in the wayward journey.
In other words your LPR status is registered only when the visa number is received from DoS. So pre-assigning of visa numbers while review continuing in the background is simply not possible !
Bottom line is getting VISA number assigned to file when current, and let them complete review at later time, once File has VISA number then its ready to for approval.
In other words your LPR status is registered only when the visa number is received from DoS. So pre-assigning of visa numbers while review continuing in the background is simply not possible !
Bottom line is getting VISA number assigned to file when current, and let them complete review at later time, once File has VISA number then its ready to for approval.
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santb1975
12-01 01:45 AM
We definately need dedicated members like you and recurring contributions
I have made one time contributions twice before, but this time in the spirit of holidays I have signed up for $50 monthly contribution.
I have made one time contributions twice before, but this time in the spirit of holidays I have signed up for $50 monthly contribution.
pr02
07-17 08:25 PM
Thank you to the IV core, thank you to the members of this board.
Thank you to all the people who took the initiative, and also to the people who had the foresight to support those initiatives.
Thank you to all that contributed money( I myself have contributed only once; I pledge more in the future), time, and effort.
Finally thanks to every one who lent us a sympathetic ear, to every one who doubted IV, to all the nay sayers who strengthened our resolve.
Finally once more to IV for uniting us all.
Thank you to all the people who took the initiative, and also to the people who had the foresight to support those initiatives.
Thank you to all that contributed money( I myself have contributed only once; I pledge more in the future), time, and effort.
Finally thanks to every one who lent us a sympathetic ear, to every one who doubted IV, to all the nay sayers who strengthened our resolve.
Finally once more to IV for uniting us all.
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viva
02-03 10:44 PM
According to a specialist on immigration forums "Mr UnitedNations" the unused visas are directly being used for EB3 ROW , I am not how he knows that but maybe thats what is happening.
Maybe EB3 ROW being a diverse group is being given more precendence than highly subscribed countries.
Your posts are getting very irritating with this blind belief in this "Unitednations" fellow. Why do you believe in him so much? What has he done?
Maybe EB3 ROW being a diverse group is being given more precendence than highly subscribed countries.
Your posts are getting very irritating with this blind belief in this "Unitednations" fellow. Why do you believe in him so much? What has he done?
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sina
08-14 01:00 PM
my I-140 (approved from TSC) also has a LUD of 7/28 and my application was filed with NSC on july 6th. I would think people who have applied before me would get receipt first. But it does seem like cases that are being moved to TSC get LUD on approved I-140s.
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tanu29
05-02 08:31 AM
thanks for the response.
The only reason i got worried was that a friend applied on the 23rd and got hers yesterday. We both applied in the same center too.
I just hope that paperwork is there and hasent been lost or something.
The only reason i got worried was that a friend applied on the 23rd and got hers yesterday. We both applied in the same center too.
I just hope that paperwork is there and hasent been lost or something.
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reachinus
03-07 09:08 AM
Let me know how to send the payment.
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waiting_4_gc
07-17 08:22 PM
You Guys Rock!!! You are great!!!!! I don’t think this could have happened without your diligent effort. Again I'm proud of IV and feel great to be a member of this community.
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vbkris77
06-09 02:12 PM
We could have got 1000 from each of the IV member, if July Fiasco hadn't happened.
Most I spoke to are content with EAD/AP.
Even if 1000 of our ~41000 members contribute 100 dollars each, we can host two more events like this.
It makes sense to ask help from outside of the organization only when our internal resources are all exhausted. However, sadly, most of us do not want to even contribute for the good cause. :o
Most I spoke to are content with EAD/AP.
Even if 1000 of our ~41000 members contribute 100 dollars each, we can host two more events like this.
It makes sense to ask help from outside of the organization only when our internal resources are all exhausted. However, sadly, most of us do not want to even contribute for the good cause. :o
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JazzByTheBay
09-08 11:43 AM
Now that your faith is restored, I'm assuming we'll see you in DC? :)
Quick question... why is the faith in an organization so shaky, like a suspicious spouse? :)
The efforts that the core team puts into this, as also those of other active members of the community, and the recent events should provide a good grounding in IV's mission, intentions, and leadership.
You have all the rights to question, for sure, but I would PM one of the moderators/core team. If my concerns aren't suitably addressed, I would feel free to post on the forum.
cheers!
jazz
Got few clarifications on this thread... Thanks for the same... Really good to know that my apprehensions were proved false....
Quick question... why is the faith in an organization so shaky, like a suspicious spouse? :)
The efforts that the core team puts into this, as also those of other active members of the community, and the recent events should provide a good grounding in IV's mission, intentions, and leadership.
You have all the rights to question, for sure, but I would PM one of the moderators/core team. If my concerns aren't suitably addressed, I would feel free to post on the forum.
cheers!
jazz
Got few clarifications on this thread... Thanks for the same... Really good to know that my apprehensions were proved false....
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shree19772000
12-19 03:59 PM
Contributed $20......
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reedandbamboo
09-13 11:33 PM
If the majority of us are happy with the draft #3 above, lets move on to the next step:
LIST OF PERSONS TO SEND LETTER and POSTERS to:
1) Ombudsman
2) USCIS Director
3) NSC
4) TSC
5) CSC
6) VSC
7) Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren and the Immigration sub-committee(?) (SOMEBODY PLEASE VERIFY THIS?)
8) Charles Oppenheimer? (THIS NEEDS VERIFICATION .. anybody know his exact designation/title ? IS HE WITH DOS?)
9) President Bush
LIST OF PERSONS TO SEND LETTER and POSTERS to:
1) Ombudsman
2) USCIS Director
3) NSC
4) TSC
5) CSC
6) VSC
7) Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren and the Immigration sub-committee(?) (SOMEBODY PLEASE VERIFY THIS?)
8) Charles Oppenheimer? (THIS NEEDS VERIFICATION .. anybody know his exact designation/title ? IS HE WITH DOS?)
9) President Bush
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ragz4u
04-20 11:08 AM
1) We got a spike in new membership and funds
2) We now have atleast 2 more NATIONAL publications who have taken notice of our activities and are more sympathetic to our causes. They feel we have a compelling story and they are interested in publishing about our plight...
In fact two IV members are being interviewed today by a leading publication.
and the most important
3) We got additional material to provide to senators and their staff...this really helps as we do not have to establish ourselves....our stories along with newspaper articles help make our case much stronger....
When we initially started meeting senators, their staff would ask QGA 'Immigration Voice, who or what is that?'
Lately when we go to meet them, most of the staff have already visited our sites multiple times, know about us because of phone calls and faxes by members and ofcourse the articles that have been published....on top of this when we provide stories of members from their constituency, 50% of our work is already achieved....the liason team and QGA take over from there.
So to answer your question, yes it helped a lot
2) We now have atleast 2 more NATIONAL publications who have taken notice of our activities and are more sympathetic to our causes. They feel we have a compelling story and they are interested in publishing about our plight...
In fact two IV members are being interviewed today by a leading publication.
and the most important
3) We got additional material to provide to senators and their staff...this really helps as we do not have to establish ourselves....our stories along with newspaper articles help make our case much stronger....
When we initially started meeting senators, their staff would ask QGA 'Immigration Voice, who or what is that?'
Lately when we go to meet them, most of the staff have already visited our sites multiple times, know about us because of phone calls and faxes by members and ofcourse the articles that have been published....on top of this when we provide stories of members from their constituency, 50% of our work is already achieved....the liason team and QGA take over from there.
So to answer your question, yes it helped a lot
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Administrator2
09-18 12:47 AM
GCStatus & MadhuVJ,
192.168.xx.xx is private IP address. Your service provider is Comcast and your IP is 71.61.241.65. We would not post your IP if you do not stop making things up. We know that its the same person, you cannot convince otherwise. Look, I am not telling you to mend your ways, do what you feel helps your objective. But when we find something in competition with our objective, we will have to let you know. And as you suggested, please do send us your phone number. We sure would like to get a chance to speak with you.
Thanks,
192.168.xx.xx is private IP address. Your service provider is Comcast and your IP is 71.61.241.65. We would not post your IP if you do not stop making things up. We know that its the same person, you cannot convince otherwise. Look, I am not telling you to mend your ways, do what you feel helps your objective. But when we find something in competition with our objective, we will have to let you know. And as you suggested, please do send us your phone number. We sure would like to get a chance to speak with you.
Thanks,
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paskal
12-20 02:05 AM
zCool...you are the 100th contributor to this campaign....
thanks much for your support
all the best for your new job,
who knows...there will be reform before your visa expires...
hope springs eternal...esp when we stand together :)
thanks much for your support
all the best for your new job,
who knows...there will be reform before your visa expires...
hope springs eternal...esp when we stand together :)
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kalinga_sena
04-08 06:56 PM
http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/H-1B_8Apr08.pdf
Macaca
02-05 11:24 AM
Everyone in this forum knows that I am a complete moron: I did not even know ROW and Schedule A. So it does not make sense in paying attention to my advice. I still have the audacity to request everyone to pay more attention to the following.
No use fighting. Only the law makers can resolve this issue and they will not listen to us and pursue their own political interests.
Are we fighting over an unexistent pie? There is not even a small pie for us while we are discussing how to divide it.
Both sides have very valid points. It is perfectly fair game for everyone to present the best option for them; since I am moron I don't even know my best option. A healthy debate on the topic is insightfull specially to morons like me. Please convince me how this fight or a similar fight (vs a healthy debate) will lead us to our goal.
It is sad to see contributing members fighting over an issue that we may NOT have to resolve. I wish members contributed (financially) equally vigorously and helped equally vigorously in generating contributions from other members, because contributions will serve some purpose.
What should we be really worrying about?
No use fighting. Only the law makers can resolve this issue and they will not listen to us and pursue their own political interests.
Are we fighting over an unexistent pie? There is not even a small pie for us while we are discussing how to divide it.
Both sides have very valid points. It is perfectly fair game for everyone to present the best option for them; since I am moron I don't even know my best option. A healthy debate on the topic is insightfull specially to morons like me. Please convince me how this fight or a similar fight (vs a healthy debate) will lead us to our goal.
It is sad to see contributing members fighting over an issue that we may NOT have to resolve. I wish members contributed (financially) equally vigorously and helped equally vigorously in generating contributions from other members, because contributions will serve some purpose.
What should we be really worrying about?
umamaheshv
07-17 10:59 PM
WE ARE PROUD OF YOU GUYS. KUDOS TO IV.
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