Hassan11
07-18 10:58 AM
Obviously,
Can you make what you wrote here in your reply in a form of a letter and create a petition to be signed by IV members ( just like this petition fighting Lou Dobbs). then your petition will be mailed to all media outlets. I really like what you wrote and I think if baked by IV we can sign it as a petition and send it to explain our cause to the media and the American people that might not be aware of our situation.
Thanks
the revised version is more pointed.
Here are a few other points to consider and highlight:
- That the woes of legal high skilled immigrants are completely forgotten
- Despite the fact that they pay taxes, social security etc
- They represent a continued American heritage of immigrants chasing the Great American Dream
While H1B workers might appear to 'displace US workers', the crux of the issue is that in order for US companies to remain innovative and competitive they cannot afford to take a hoary protectionist policy in talent management.
High skilled talent finds level ground, wherever it might be.
While the old world order was about national boundaries and international competition amongst countries, the new world order is about a flat world where transnational collaboration and commerce can enable wealth and job creation in any part of the world!
The presence of high skilled foreign workers INSIDE the US
- ensures that jobs remain in the US
- ensures that resultant taxes remain in the US
- ensures that resultant investments target the US economy
- apart from ensuring US competitive and commercial advantage
The oft repeated arguments about 'local talent being available but not tapped' is borne out of a sense of elitist entitlement; something that runs counter to the great American Dream and the quest for constant innovation, creation, improvement and execution.
The need of the hour should be on how to enable successful assimilation of high skilled labor and talent into the US economy such that the economic engines of efficient productivity are not hampered by artificial tarrifs and barriers borne out of a broken immigration system.
The quest for a color-blind, talent-oriented, country-agnostic immigration system has a long and sometimes troubling, history.
While the old world afforded the luxury of years to rectify imblances and imperfections in policy constructs, the new world leaves little room for inefficient alignment of policies.
The need to fix a broken legal immigration system is as much an economic reality as it is to address detrimental effects in womens' rights (spouses' rights), labor rights and free markets.
Can you make what you wrote here in your reply in a form of a letter and create a petition to be signed by IV members ( just like this petition fighting Lou Dobbs). then your petition will be mailed to all media outlets. I really like what you wrote and I think if baked by IV we can sign it as a petition and send it to explain our cause to the media and the American people that might not be aware of our situation.
Thanks
the revised version is more pointed.
Here are a few other points to consider and highlight:
- That the woes of legal high skilled immigrants are completely forgotten
- Despite the fact that they pay taxes, social security etc
- They represent a continued American heritage of immigrants chasing the Great American Dream
While H1B workers might appear to 'displace US workers', the crux of the issue is that in order for US companies to remain innovative and competitive they cannot afford to take a hoary protectionist policy in talent management.
High skilled talent finds level ground, wherever it might be.
While the old world order was about national boundaries and international competition amongst countries, the new world order is about a flat world where transnational collaboration and commerce can enable wealth and job creation in any part of the world!
The presence of high skilled foreign workers INSIDE the US
- ensures that jobs remain in the US
- ensures that resultant taxes remain in the US
- ensures that resultant investments target the US economy
- apart from ensuring US competitive and commercial advantage
The oft repeated arguments about 'local talent being available but not tapped' is borne out of a sense of elitist entitlement; something that runs counter to the great American Dream and the quest for constant innovation, creation, improvement and execution.
The need of the hour should be on how to enable successful assimilation of high skilled labor and talent into the US economy such that the economic engines of efficient productivity are not hampered by artificial tarrifs and barriers borne out of a broken immigration system.
The quest for a color-blind, talent-oriented, country-agnostic immigration system has a long and sometimes troubling, history.
While the old world afforded the luxury of years to rectify imblances and imperfections in policy constructs, the new world leaves little room for inefficient alignment of policies.
The need to fix a broken legal immigration system is as much an economic reality as it is to address detrimental effects in womens' rights (spouses' rights), labor rights and free markets.
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srikondoji
10-13 02:41 PM
Nicely said.
Don't know if it was Roman or greek, but they kept on diluting their currency (gold coins) with copper to support their spending and populist schemes. They kept on diluting to the extent that even India stopped exporting spices becuase their coins were not worth as much as they use to once upon a time.
This is what is happening to dollar.
America is loosing their grips pn global financial system. Even though it will be remembered as the founder of free maket, it has rushed too fast and forced other countries to open up their financial system. HOwever, three essential ingedients of free market theory have not been handled well.
Price discovey, Capital allocation and Flow of liquidity.
We are at a point, where all countries can reject free market as a failed attempt or pick it up from here and strengthen it going foward. Regulation is a must or else we will hit the bump again in future.
Without a proper trading system and regulator price discovey is vey hard and bubbles keep occuring.
This is vey true in case of real estate poperties. There are many localities in Hyderabad where propeties have not been priced appropriately.
In a matter of 1 year, property prices in some localities have gone up multi fold just because of 1 or 2 transactions by desparate buyers.
There is no price differential between 100 sq yards propety or 1000 sq yards property on a per sq yard price basis.
ROE is far greater on investments made on proportionate basis on 1000 sq yard plot compared to 100 sq yard plot. Without regards fo town planning, return on investments every piece of land was priced with the same yard stick.
I think it is best to follow the quotes below
"When eveybody is buying, something is definitely wrong."
"When everybody is selling, again something is wrong".
I don't know much about buying house/property in India. Maybe you want to have a close family member keep an eye on your property otherwise a land graber/local gunda in the area may take possession of your property while you are here/away.
But I find some of the discussion in this thread extremely intriguing. There were specific conditions in 1930s, 1960s, 1990s that caused recovery in those times. Leadership & American generation were ready to sacrifice and do hard work. Contrary to the hard work done during those times, large percentage of the current population is indifferent and does not care to know about the current crisis, not knowing the gravity of the situation. Majority of the population was, still is, opposed to $700 billion bailout/rescue not knowing what is going on. The ups and downs in the stock market is just the beginning. Coming year is going to be very tough, specially on folks are in the situation that require them to visit this forum every now and then.
Every great and prosperous nation is just one generation away from losing its greatness. History teaches us that Great nations lost their greatness/cease to exist because the larger populations ignored the times of crisis. Most people say that America has always come out of crisis in the past and just like those times, America will again come out of the current crisis. That's what everybody expect and wants to see happen, as if there will be a miracle and everything will get fixed. Everybody including media/leadership are taking things for granted, as if things will turn around by itself just because things have turned around in the past. But this apathy is very dangerous. Here is why - we can say with fair bit of certainty that Romans must have also said during their time of crisis that things will be fine, they have always gotten fine because we are the Romans, the empire of Gods, or whatever. Likewise, this time around, media/leaders are guided by similar rhetoric. I find this behavior very dangerous. In 1930s/60s/90s there was able leadership and American generations during those times were ready to do their share. It doesn't appear such this time, atleast not right now. Maybe we have sometime to come out of the crisis and things will change in the near future. But without change in the direction, things don't look very good right now.
Rome was not built in one day and it did not perish in one day. If leadership and population continue to ignore the gravity of the crisis, there is only one possible outcome.
The positive aspect this time around is, due to globalization, other nations have stake in American economy and are willing to come to the rescue. Even nations like China and Russia are willing to step-up. This would have been unthinkable in an un-globalized world. But other nations can only do so much. Ultimately, the larger population in America will have to step up, and that includes us, there is no other way. Now G-7 is working together to come up with a comprehensive plan. A lot of people beat down on globalization, but till now it is working as was designed, which is good, and other friendlier/unfriendlier nations are willing to step-up.
Another foreseeable opportunity to fight the current situation is, world energy crisis. America can use the world energy crisis to turn things around, not necessarily subscribing to ideas from businessmen like T Bone Pickens/natural gas to promote their business and blah bhah blah, but something else, which makes America - a leader to solve the energy requirements of over 6 billion people, when estimated 20% of the world population consumes 95% of the world energy.
I don't know if you should buy property in India or if you should buy gold. But in the grand scheme of things, if I were you, I would hang on to the "cash" very close to my chest. Things are really bad, a lot more than what meets the eye or what is apparent.
.
Don't know if it was Roman or greek, but they kept on diluting their currency (gold coins) with copper to support their spending and populist schemes. They kept on diluting to the extent that even India stopped exporting spices becuase their coins were not worth as much as they use to once upon a time.
This is what is happening to dollar.
America is loosing their grips pn global financial system. Even though it will be remembered as the founder of free maket, it has rushed too fast and forced other countries to open up their financial system. HOwever, three essential ingedients of free market theory have not been handled well.
Price discovey, Capital allocation and Flow of liquidity.
We are at a point, where all countries can reject free market as a failed attempt or pick it up from here and strengthen it going foward. Regulation is a must or else we will hit the bump again in future.
Without a proper trading system and regulator price discovey is vey hard and bubbles keep occuring.
This is vey true in case of real estate poperties. There are many localities in Hyderabad where propeties have not been priced appropriately.
In a matter of 1 year, property prices in some localities have gone up multi fold just because of 1 or 2 transactions by desparate buyers.
There is no price differential between 100 sq yards propety or 1000 sq yards property on a per sq yard price basis.
ROE is far greater on investments made on proportionate basis on 1000 sq yard plot compared to 100 sq yard plot. Without regards fo town planning, return on investments every piece of land was priced with the same yard stick.
I think it is best to follow the quotes below
"When eveybody is buying, something is definitely wrong."
"When everybody is selling, again something is wrong".
I don't know much about buying house/property in India. Maybe you want to have a close family member keep an eye on your property otherwise a land graber/local gunda in the area may take possession of your property while you are here/away.
But I find some of the discussion in this thread extremely intriguing. There were specific conditions in 1930s, 1960s, 1990s that caused recovery in those times. Leadership & American generation were ready to sacrifice and do hard work. Contrary to the hard work done during those times, large percentage of the current population is indifferent and does not care to know about the current crisis, not knowing the gravity of the situation. Majority of the population was, still is, opposed to $700 billion bailout/rescue not knowing what is going on. The ups and downs in the stock market is just the beginning. Coming year is going to be very tough, specially on folks are in the situation that require them to visit this forum every now and then.
Every great and prosperous nation is just one generation away from losing its greatness. History teaches us that Great nations lost their greatness/cease to exist because the larger populations ignored the times of crisis. Most people say that America has always come out of crisis in the past and just like those times, America will again come out of the current crisis. That's what everybody expect and wants to see happen, as if there will be a miracle and everything will get fixed. Everybody including media/leadership are taking things for granted, as if things will turn around by itself just because things have turned around in the past. But this apathy is very dangerous. Here is why - we can say with fair bit of certainty that Romans must have also said during their time of crisis that things will be fine, they have always gotten fine because we are the Romans, the empire of Gods, or whatever. Likewise, this time around, media/leaders are guided by similar rhetoric. I find this behavior very dangerous. In 1930s/60s/90s there was able leadership and American generations during those times were ready to do their share. It doesn't appear such this time, atleast not right now. Maybe we have sometime to come out of the crisis and things will change in the near future. But without change in the direction, things don't look very good right now.
Rome was not built in one day and it did not perish in one day. If leadership and population continue to ignore the gravity of the crisis, there is only one possible outcome.
The positive aspect this time around is, due to globalization, other nations have stake in American economy and are willing to come to the rescue. Even nations like China and Russia are willing to step-up. This would have been unthinkable in an un-globalized world. But other nations can only do so much. Ultimately, the larger population in America will have to step up, and that includes us, there is no other way. Now G-7 is working together to come up with a comprehensive plan. A lot of people beat down on globalization, but till now it is working as was designed, which is good, and other friendlier/unfriendlier nations are willing to step-up.
Another foreseeable opportunity to fight the current situation is, world energy crisis. America can use the world energy crisis to turn things around, not necessarily subscribing to ideas from businessmen like T Bone Pickens/natural gas to promote their business and blah bhah blah, but something else, which makes America - a leader to solve the energy requirements of over 6 billion people, when estimated 20% of the world population consumes 95% of the world energy.
I don't know if you should buy property in India or if you should buy gold. But in the grand scheme of things, if I were you, I would hang on to the "cash" very close to my chest. Things are really bad, a lot more than what meets the eye or what is apparent.
.
desi3933
08-19 03:00 PM
lol.. nice one.. anyway, congrats dude.. biggest fulfillment.. hmm.. sounds like gollum and "the precious".. this is further proof that the first stop after attaining gc/usc needs to be a shrink..atleast for some of us..
Thanks Ujjwal.
Please read my post again. This is what I said -
This is one of my biggest fulfillments and it means everything to me.
What's wrong in that? :confused: Aren't you here to get your GC and then USC?
Good Luck yo you, my friend.
Thanks Ujjwal.
Please read my post again. This is what I said -
This is one of my biggest fulfillments and it means everything to me.
What's wrong in that? :confused: Aren't you here to get your GC and then USC?
Good Luck yo you, my friend.
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go2roomshare
03-14 05:07 PM
Looking at discussion going on here, its sure that IV have financial problems & only 5% (of total 8000 members) are contributing for the cause. Now, if we restrict IV website for "paid" visits, dont you think that IV membership is reduced by 95% to only 400 paying members?
Instead of making "Paid" web site, I think Moderators needs to delete derogatory posts & block such userids.
That is not a good option that would stop/reduce new members significatly, when IV goes to DC to represent our self, we have to say ' we are only 400 members ' There will be lot of difference in infuence factor when we are saying we are 400 to 8000
Instead of making "Paid" web site, I think Moderators needs to delete derogatory posts & block such userids.
That is not a good option that would stop/reduce new members significatly, when IV goes to DC to represent our self, we have to say ' we are only 400 members ' There will be lot of difference in infuence factor when we are saying we are 400 to 8000
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mrjonie
05-04 12:55 AM
Hi Friends,
I checked my status and havent received any Soft LUD, but I received a FP notice couple of days back. I am not sure what this is for..My PD is Dec 2006 (EB3) and I received EAD/AP/I140 approved. I applied concurrently during the july fiasco and already done with FP on 2007 itself.
Now i am surprised why I need to , go for FP again. I am still in H1 and my EAD is expired and havent renewed.
Can anyone shed some light in to this FP notice ???
Cheers
John
I checked my status and havent received any Soft LUD, but I received a FP notice couple of days back. I am not sure what this is for..My PD is Dec 2006 (EB3) and I received EAD/AP/I140 approved. I applied concurrently during the july fiasco and already done with FP on 2007 itself.
Now i am surprised why I need to , go for FP again. I am still in H1 and my EAD is expired and havent renewed.
Can anyone shed some light in to this FP notice ???
Cheers
John
Leo07
01-31 03:30 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^bump^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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ThinkTwice
07-19 06:30 PM
Please hold off. We need to figure out how this part of the drive will be structured in terms of reimbursement for the Core members.
already did my 100$ for this drive
please folks contribute for aman and the core !!!
its OUR turn to do the work
already did my 100$ for this drive
please folks contribute for aman and the core !!!
its OUR turn to do the work
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gsc999
07-11 07:05 PM
I'm more of the opinion that White shirts and Denims should be fine. Suit in bay area makes no sense. We are all after all geeky engineers after all.. like some one said!
A
Weather forecast for Saturday at this venue = 82 degree F. Partly cloudy.
Today's humidity level was 46%. As many locals will agree, this is not conducive weather for formal wear.
http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/USCA0993.html
A
Weather forecast for Saturday at this venue = 82 degree F. Partly cloudy.
Today's humidity level was 46%. As many locals will agree, this is not conducive weather for formal wear.
http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/USCA0993.html
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mpadapa
09-17 10:57 AM
The session hasn't started yet. There is a delay since the House is in session. Once the voting on the bill that is currently discussed in the House is over, probably then they will start the meeting..
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ItIsNotFunny
03-13 10:29 AM
WaldenPond is too nice to answer your question. Personally, I wouldn't consider it obligatory to answer a specific question by someone who cannot volunteer due to "Personal Reason", whatever that may mean. If you cannot volunteer, cannot participate in IV's action items, cannot contribute, then you are most welcome to use IV's portal to get answers to your questions or get other kind of information - but do not expect updates from anyone as your right!
IV is not a top-down organization and if you think that it is becoming like Immigration Portal then partially it is due to people like you who do not want to participate but just want 'updates'.
You are partially right.
One thing I know for sure - you know how to copy paste and repeat the same post again and again :)
IV is not a top-down organization and if you think that it is becoming like Immigration Portal then partially it is due to people like you who do not want to participate but just want 'updates'.
You are partially right.
One thing I know for sure - you know how to copy paste and repeat the same post again and again :)
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Karthikthiru
07-11 08:24 PM
Any new updates for this thread
Karthik
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munnu77
07-16 09:40 AM
signed and sealed
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chanduv23
02-01 04:32 PM
Why don't we all put an end to finger pointing and concentrate on what we need. If someone is doing wrong or has followed wrong ways, govt may/may not take care of them, it is upto the govt, why do we always blame fellow citizens or immigrants?
We all know, people immigrate doing manipulation, being illegal, over stay visas, jump fences, modify resumes, etc...... at some stage everyone of us would do some level of manipulation so why finger pointing?
Making our lives better and fixing retro is the goal why drag in consulting companies.
We all know, people immigrate doing manipulation, being illegal, over stay visas, jump fences, modify resumes, etc...... at some stage everyone of us would do some level of manipulation so why finger pointing?
Making our lives better and fixing retro is the goal why drag in consulting companies.
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pbojja
10-02 11:12 PM
EB2 india/china... see this..
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21828
and then see this
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21833
ab bajao ghanti... aur chup chap baithe raho
(translation: sit there like a paraplegic in the line and do nothing ... while a massive line jumping is in process... you will keep seeing while all these EB3 "bodyshopped consultants" will continue to slowly port their PDs and get approved ahead of you.. EB2 I/C is in for a really really long wait.
Honestly, these consultants don't even have an H1B worthy job: its not a permanent job offer. They don't get paid fulltime. Let alone their eligibility for a GC ....what a scam!
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Can you please give a back ground of yours before talking about others ? Are you CEO of some company ?
First learn to complete your profile ...look at the 485 mailing and receive dates ..
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21828
and then see this
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21833
ab bajao ghanti... aur chup chap baithe raho
(translation: sit there like a paraplegic in the line and do nothing ... while a massive line jumping is in process... you will keep seeing while all these EB3 "bodyshopped consultants" will continue to slowly port their PDs and get approved ahead of you.. EB2 I/C is in for a really really long wait.
Honestly, these consultants don't even have an H1B worthy job: its not a permanent job offer. They don't get paid fulltime. Let alone their eligibility for a GC ....what a scam!
.
Can you please give a back ground of yours before talking about others ? Are you CEO of some company ?
First learn to complete your profile ...look at the 485 mailing and receive dates ..
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vikki76
10-27 11:50 AM
First. congrats alterego- 4 yrs after 485 filing is a long long time to go.:eek:
Not that I know of. There are two 140 but both have AOS option - Is it normal that 140 application goes back to USCIS office ? AFAIK, there is nothing wrong with my 140 application . It is st. B.Tech+ MS+2 yrs type of case with permanent job (no consulting)
Not that I know of. There are two 140 but both have AOS option - Is it normal that 140 application goes back to USCIS office ? AFAIK, there is nothing wrong with my 140 application . It is st. B.Tech+ MS+2 yrs type of case with permanent job (no consulting)
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cinqsit
01-17 02:28 PM
hey snathan
how about a addnl category in the survey
people who are not on h1 but willing to contribute
I am sure there will be some ;-)
cinqsit
how about a addnl category in the survey
people who are not on h1 but willing to contribute
I am sure there will be some ;-)
cinqsit
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baladev
07-15 03:41 AM
Me and my couple of other friends singed just now. But my question, is this petition enough to fire this guy or atleast anyaction wub be taken againt this guy by CNN......i doubt
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anurakt
11-13 04:19 PM
Hello anurakt,
Thank for contributing again to IV. You and other members like yourself would be the reason for IVs success in changing the flawed green card system.
Thank you for encouraging other IV members for contributing. As you know, this is very important and more amongst us should encourage our fellow IV members to contribute. Often times it is evident that few IV members are struggling to keep a positive tone on the forums. As you may have experienced, it is easy to post few messages here and there. The message of some of these posts is to throw out ideas for others to implement. But in the end, the success of our community will depend on the contribution from kind members like you. Thank You.
Regards,
WaldenPond
U r welcome ! I will put in more in coming days . I just wish people understand that we are in a good spot and need make the most of it. Wothout money this will not be possibel. At the end of the day I don't want to be left stranded just because I couldn't contribute even a buck.
Thank for contributing again to IV. You and other members like yourself would be the reason for IVs success in changing the flawed green card system.
Thank you for encouraging other IV members for contributing. As you know, this is very important and more amongst us should encourage our fellow IV members to contribute. Often times it is evident that few IV members are struggling to keep a positive tone on the forums. As you may have experienced, it is easy to post few messages here and there. The message of some of these posts is to throw out ideas for others to implement. But in the end, the success of our community will depend on the contribution from kind members like you. Thank You.
Regards,
WaldenPond
U r welcome ! I will put in more in coming days . I just wish people understand that we are in a good spot and need make the most of it. Wothout money this will not be possibel. At the end of the day I don't want to be left stranded just because I couldn't contribute even a buck.
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sathishav
04-18 02:54 PM
This is what my attorney told me:
4 Year Bachelors in India + 5 years of Exp (excluding sponsoring emp)
3 Year Bachelors in India + 2 Yrs(Msc) /3 Years(MCA) + 5 years of Exp (excluding sponsoring emp)
4 Year Bachelors in India + US Masters + 2 years of Exp (excluding sponsoring emp)
All these qualify for EB2. Just make sure you Job Description requires eb2.
Also, consult with a leading attorney and show you employer, that this is doable.
4 Year Bachelors in India + 5 years of Exp (excluding sponsoring emp)
3 Year Bachelors in India + 2 Yrs(Msc) /3 Years(MCA) + 5 years of Exp (excluding sponsoring emp)
4 Year Bachelors in India + US Masters + 2 years of Exp (excluding sponsoring emp)
All these qualify for EB2. Just make sure you Job Description requires eb2.
Also, consult with a leading attorney and show you employer, that this is doable.
PavanV
08-18 02:16 PM
With the attitude towards immigration in this country, i really doubt this bill will pass :(, i really hope it does though, i think the USICS is a strong believer of "sabar ka phal meeta hota hai", translated, the fruit of a long wait is sweet, i just hope the wait is not too long and the fruit rotten
Also, i am ready to help/organize/contribute for the community to make these bills pass....
Also, i am ready to help/organize/contribute for the community to make these bills pass....
sparuthi
09-17 01:00 PM
They are in recess.. will HR5882 come up after lunch.. I m on west coast,. so i dont know what has already taken place.. can someone pl let us know here..thanks
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