chanduv23
12-07 10:39 AM
Saguar, this is not a simple issue and we cannot just this as an independent event. Yes these people are here ilegally but what do they do; work. Yes they work for meagre wages and reduce the price of commodities which would otherwise need to be imported from elsewhere. Now we have heard that due to some of the raids innocent children were torn apart from their parents who never came back from work. children came back from school to learn that they will never see their parents again. whole towns, churches and communities cried out in anguish when such events happen. The pain is tremendous. when you allow a problem to get so deep rooted into the society often the best way to handle it is to first accept it and then plan carefully. You cannot suddenly start deporting a minor fraction of these folks who have indeed contributed to the economy directly/indirectly. You can import cheap goods from other countries but people are now realizing that it is better to import labor and have work done here. This raids and intolerance has an element of hatred mixed in and it is not only about "law". Churches came forward to hide and protect the children who were affected by the raids. shouldn't the children be evicted too??
Very well said. I have been on IV and actively participated in a lot of campaigns and events and interacted with a lot of people from different walks of life, different nationalities, different situations etc ... WHat I have noticed is, everyone has their own opinion and stay entitled to their opinion. Everyone wants to be judgemental through their opinion.
Now, lets all for a moment - step out of our "legal immigrant" shoes and step into the shoes of someone who has to decide what to do? As a decision maker, what will you do? Everyone has their own opinion to which they are entitled and thats whats happening.
Now, ocne again - step out of your legal immigrant shoes, and say, for some reason, you lost status and are deportable - what will be your opinion? Would you say "Shakle me and put me in detention center?"
If you are in poverty and and have no food for 2 days, you may go grab a bread from a store and run to a safe place and eat it - will you talk all these rules about shop lifting .....
If you catch a hungry child shoplifting to eat a bread will you PUNISH him? Ir will you try to do someting to make things better for him?
All you have to do is to come out of "the hate and hard" thinking and try to look at things in "rational and meaningful way"
Hate no one for what they are or how they are. Try to see if you can help. Just help.
I have been living in US for close to 10 years now and though I am proud of fellow Indian community and their achievements, I have also noticed how the community is divided and oponionated. Forming so many sub groups, promoting caste feelings, fighting each other, trying to piut down other fellow community members, lack of unity and what not ....
If everyone in this world want to be considerate and help - then there will certainly be a day when we can see a world without poverty, wars and all the issues we are having today.
Very well said. I have been on IV and actively participated in a lot of campaigns and events and interacted with a lot of people from different walks of life, different nationalities, different situations etc ... WHat I have noticed is, everyone has their own opinion and stay entitled to their opinion. Everyone wants to be judgemental through their opinion.
Now, lets all for a moment - step out of our "legal immigrant" shoes and step into the shoes of someone who has to decide what to do? As a decision maker, what will you do? Everyone has their own opinion to which they are entitled and thats whats happening.
Now, ocne again - step out of your legal immigrant shoes, and say, for some reason, you lost status and are deportable - what will be your opinion? Would you say "Shakle me and put me in detention center?"
If you are in poverty and and have no food for 2 days, you may go grab a bread from a store and run to a safe place and eat it - will you talk all these rules about shop lifting .....
If you catch a hungry child shoplifting to eat a bread will you PUNISH him? Ir will you try to do someting to make things better for him?
All you have to do is to come out of "the hate and hard" thinking and try to look at things in "rational and meaningful way"
Hate no one for what they are or how they are. Try to see if you can help. Just help.
I have been living in US for close to 10 years now and though I am proud of fellow Indian community and their achievements, I have also noticed how the community is divided and oponionated. Forming so many sub groups, promoting caste feelings, fighting each other, trying to piut down other fellow community members, lack of unity and what not ....
If everyone in this world want to be considerate and help - then there will certainly be a day when we can see a world without poverty, wars and all the issues we are having today.
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thomachan72
12-07 07:59 AM
Saguar, this is not a simple issue and we cannot just this as an independent event. Yes these people are here ilegally but what do they do; work. Yes they work for meagre wages and reduce the price of commodities which would otherwise need to be imported from elsewhere. Now we have heard that due to some of the raids innocent children were torn apart from their parents who never came back from work. children came back from school to learn that they will never see their parents again. whole towns, churches and communities cried out in anguish when such events happen. The pain is tremendous. when you allow a problem to get so deep rooted into the society often the best way to handle it is to first accept it and then plan carefully. You cannot suddenly start deporting a minor fraction of these folks who have indeed contributed to the economy directly/indirectly. You can import cheap goods from other countries but people are now realizing that it is better to import labor and have work done here. This raids and intolerance has an element of hatred mixed in and it is not only about "law". Churches came forward to hide and protect the children who were affected by the raids. shouldn't the children be evicted too??
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ItIsNotFunny
03-06 01:41 PM
Reached pledge: 25% - 46 users - $25. 2 users $50.
Actual contribution received: 0% (my bad - didn't create account yet. I and Pappu are still discussing.)
Milestone 1 achieved.
Working for next. Can someone help in efforts of sending PM to frequent users?
Actual contribution received: 0% (my bad - didn't create account yet. I and Pappu are still discussing.)
Milestone 1 achieved.
Working for next. Can someone help in efforts of sending PM to frequent users?
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eb2dec2005
09-15 09:41 AM
This thread is good. Keep it going. I strongly recommend that - everyone active on thbis thread , please update your IV profile and also join a state chapter if you have not already done that. if you do not have a state chapter, contact your neighboring state chapters or if you want to start a state chapter, contact pappu or paskal and get permission to start one.
It is very nice to see a lot of new mwmbers getting organized.
I live in PA. Please let me know, how to join the state chapters so that i can activiely participate in IV initiatives.
Thanks,
It is very nice to see a lot of new mwmbers getting organized.
I live in PA. Please let me know, how to join the state chapters so that i can activiely participate in IV initiatives.
Thanks,
paskal
12-18 08:07 PM
Thanks all for responding
We are at 19 now, in our fledgling campaign
Please all, feel free to post when you contribute
And please pick a number and push the counter forward so we can demonstrate our commitment to all those watching on the sidelines
The next person gets to be 20...any takers?
We are at 19 now, in our fledgling campaign
Please all, feel free to post when you contribute
And please pick a number and push the counter forward so we can demonstrate our commitment to all those watching on the sidelines
The next person gets to be 20...any takers?
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ArkBird
03-09 04:07 PM
Just sent $100 for the cause also contributing $50 a month to IV
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chanduv23
09-15 11:49 AM
All that is needed is perhaps some sort of continued communication from the CORE. There hasn't been much activity - which is fine, but as long as the IV members know that CORE is alive and kicking - that is a big thing!
Not quite sure what is happening - but as you said - I agree - some sort of communication from IV core helps. Did members try to contact IV core?
Not quite sure what is happening - but as you said - I agree - some sort of communication from IV core helps. Did members try to contact IV core?
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Refugee_New
11-12 02:09 PM
Hello guys,
Sorry for this non-immigration related post. We have this sudden, tragic situation that I wanted all of your advice on. Thank you for your time in reading this long post.
We had hired an Indian nanny in NJ who, we learnt after hiring her, is here on a tourist visa. We were paying her $350 per week cash, which is the standard rate around here for nannies (incl. citizens and people on GC). We had liked her when we met her in response to an ad on Sulekha, and we thought an Indian nanny would be good for our first child. She has been with us for about 3 months, and we were intermittently not getting a good feeling with her for some reason. We finally bought a small security camera and installed it yesterday. On the very first day with the camera, we came home and saw the recorded video to find that she is violently hitting the baby on two separate occasions. Needless to say, it has shocked, angered and extremely saddened us. I showed the video to a couple of friends and even they say it is unbearable to watch. This was just the first day of recording and it pains us tremendously to think what all may have happened previously.
She is of course not going to stay with the baby alone anymore, but I want to know what legal options I have to penalize her to the fullest extent, so that she does not do this to anybody else’s small babies. She it seems had come here last year and taken care of someone else’s baby in Hoboken, and I can imagine that their baby also went through this. (This woman and her husband are a ~ 35 year old couple, who have a multiple entry ten year tourist visa; both come here for 6 months every year and work odd jobs like this. They apparently got a (unsponsored) tourist visa after showing a lot of landed property in India).
I specifically want to know if I will have potential problems if I go to law enforcement about this- regarding have employed her (both of us are on H1B visas). I know we have made mistakes and should have done better due diligence in this, and there cannot be any more punishment for us than seeing our 8 month old – who cannot tell us about it when we come home- being beaten on the tapes. We saw this yesterday and have not told her yet. We want to weigh all options before we proceed, but from today onwards one of us is home all the time till Friday. Any advice or opinion is sincerely appreciated. Thanks for reading this long post. And, to all who are thinking of nannies or have one, please learn from our mistakes and closely monitor your child’s safety every day.
Thunderbold, Sorry for your situation. Here is my observation/suggestion.
Being an immigrant you have broken the law by hiring someone to work illegally. Didn't you and your wife break the law?
You have already witnessed a child abuse and now pondering whether to report this to a law enforcement or not. Again you are breaking the law by not reporting a child abuse. Remember, abetting a crime is also a crime.
This country has given us so much including good wealth and health(except GC) and we enjoy every thing, but in return what we do is to do these kind of illegal activities.
This country let us and our spouse to work, make hell lot of money. I am not saying we are making easy money, but after having two incomes, we run around with coupons and look for cheap things or do things that are cheap. WHY?
What are we going to do with that money man? This is nothing but a greediness.
Anyway, your child has gone thru a nightmare and as a parent/father you MUST report this to a law enforcement office. You can not let this child abuser go scot-free.
Note: When you can hire a nanny that is legal/citizen for $350/week, then why did you hire someone illegal?
Sorry for this non-immigration related post. We have this sudden, tragic situation that I wanted all of your advice on. Thank you for your time in reading this long post.
We had hired an Indian nanny in NJ who, we learnt after hiring her, is here on a tourist visa. We were paying her $350 per week cash, which is the standard rate around here for nannies (incl. citizens and people on GC). We had liked her when we met her in response to an ad on Sulekha, and we thought an Indian nanny would be good for our first child. She has been with us for about 3 months, and we were intermittently not getting a good feeling with her for some reason. We finally bought a small security camera and installed it yesterday. On the very first day with the camera, we came home and saw the recorded video to find that she is violently hitting the baby on two separate occasions. Needless to say, it has shocked, angered and extremely saddened us. I showed the video to a couple of friends and even they say it is unbearable to watch. This was just the first day of recording and it pains us tremendously to think what all may have happened previously.
She is of course not going to stay with the baby alone anymore, but I want to know what legal options I have to penalize her to the fullest extent, so that she does not do this to anybody else’s small babies. She it seems had come here last year and taken care of someone else’s baby in Hoboken, and I can imagine that their baby also went through this. (This woman and her husband are a ~ 35 year old couple, who have a multiple entry ten year tourist visa; both come here for 6 months every year and work odd jobs like this. They apparently got a (unsponsored) tourist visa after showing a lot of landed property in India).
I specifically want to know if I will have potential problems if I go to law enforcement about this- regarding have employed her (both of us are on H1B visas). I know we have made mistakes and should have done better due diligence in this, and there cannot be any more punishment for us than seeing our 8 month old – who cannot tell us about it when we come home- being beaten on the tapes. We saw this yesterday and have not told her yet. We want to weigh all options before we proceed, but from today onwards one of us is home all the time till Friday. Any advice or opinion is sincerely appreciated. Thanks for reading this long post. And, to all who are thinking of nannies or have one, please learn from our mistakes and closely monitor your child’s safety every day.
Thunderbold, Sorry for your situation. Here is my observation/suggestion.
Being an immigrant you have broken the law by hiring someone to work illegally. Didn't you and your wife break the law?
You have already witnessed a child abuse and now pondering whether to report this to a law enforcement or not. Again you are breaking the law by not reporting a child abuse. Remember, abetting a crime is also a crime.
This country has given us so much including good wealth and health(except GC) and we enjoy every thing, but in return what we do is to do these kind of illegal activities.
This country let us and our spouse to work, make hell lot of money. I am not saying we are making easy money, but after having two incomes, we run around with coupons and look for cheap things or do things that are cheap. WHY?
What are we going to do with that money man? This is nothing but a greediness.
Anyway, your child has gone thru a nightmare and as a parent/father you MUST report this to a law enforcement office. You can not let this child abuser go scot-free.
Note: When you can hire a nanny that is legal/citizen for $350/week, then why did you hire someone illegal?
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satishku_2000
07-20 05:44 PM
Hi,
this is my first post...
I've seen most of you guys are indians, I admire you for being so organized and brave, and also for getting skilled enough to be sucessfull anywhere.
I'm not in the IT business, I'm not indian, I don't have special skills nor advanced dregrees. I'm just a regular guy who has worked all his life to achieve what he got. Since my degree is a 3 years old, I did not qualify foe EB2 even being in a managerial position for over 10 years.
I was waiting for the opportunity to file my family's I485 and then my company was bought and I was laid off on jun 14th.
I've been 6 years in this country, I have 2 american born kids, I've paid a lot of taxes, I have a house mortgage, a car loan...
Now I'm out of status and worst of all, everything on the GC process is lost.
I don't think it's fair, I've never done anything illegal, but I'm not ready to leave the country. I need to sell my property, don't know what to do with the car, my wife is on her MBA thesis, I just can't leave.
I'm telling all this not because I want you to feel sorry, but to create awareness that it's NOT on your hands being legal or illegal. You're in others hands: your employer, USCIS, the adjudicator officer.
So don't judge others just because you have been lucky enough to maintain your status...
Good luck to you all in your I-485s
VZLAN, Ah! I can't return to my country since I am Venezuelan, and I don't plan to raise my kids under communism.
Exactly man Nothing is in ones hands .. Two identical applications going to two different officers can lead to two different conclusions ,
this is my first post...
I've seen most of you guys are indians, I admire you for being so organized and brave, and also for getting skilled enough to be sucessfull anywhere.
I'm not in the IT business, I'm not indian, I don't have special skills nor advanced dregrees. I'm just a regular guy who has worked all his life to achieve what he got. Since my degree is a 3 years old, I did not qualify foe EB2 even being in a managerial position for over 10 years.
I was waiting for the opportunity to file my family's I485 and then my company was bought and I was laid off on jun 14th.
I've been 6 years in this country, I have 2 american born kids, I've paid a lot of taxes, I have a house mortgage, a car loan...
Now I'm out of status and worst of all, everything on the GC process is lost.
I don't think it's fair, I've never done anything illegal, but I'm not ready to leave the country. I need to sell my property, don't know what to do with the car, my wife is on her MBA thesis, I just can't leave.
I'm telling all this not because I want you to feel sorry, but to create awareness that it's NOT on your hands being legal or illegal. You're in others hands: your employer, USCIS, the adjudicator officer.
So don't judge others just because you have been lucky enough to maintain your status...
Good luck to you all in your I-485s
VZLAN, Ah! I can't return to my country since I am Venezuelan, and I don't plan to raise my kids under communism.
Exactly man Nothing is in ones hands .. Two identical applications going to two different officers can lead to two different conclusions ,
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Pravan
02-27 01:20 PM
This is a very good suggestion that should be seriously looked at...in order to get broad based support, we could also think about adding ability to file for I-485 when the dates are not current....this way the pool of people likely to be impacted will be large enough to reach a critical mass...
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rajuram
09-14 08:13 AM
I didnot started this thread not blame anyone. Everyone knows IV is our only hope....sorry if it hurt someone.
All I wanted convey is that the current visa bulletin is an opportunity (just like jul 07), IV should try to take advantage of it. They made a mistake by putting in writing that USCIS can not estimate, lets use it to our full advantage.
Lesser mortals like myself can not do much...but surely IV core can.
All I wanted convey is that the current visa bulletin is an opportunity (just like jul 07), IV should try to take advantage of it. They made a mistake by putting in writing that USCIS can not estimate, lets use it to our full advantage.
Lesser mortals like myself can not do much...but surely IV core can.
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greencard_fever
07-17 09:01 PM
Thanks a lot to all members for being with us in this struggle. We have tasted our first big success this year. Credit goes to each and every IV member. We were all affected by the visa bulletin fiasco and this is our victory. This is a victory for all our members and we must rejoice.
IV had worked very hard and had been pushing for this in the background. Our flower campaign, rally and other advocacy efforts all came together and helped us at a crunch time. We thank members that sent flowers and also walked in the San Jose heat for 4 hours. All that really shows our commitment to this cause.
We are happy that our efforts are successful and IV has been able to make a difference. Please also know that during this effort, IV was extremely active and decision makers heard our voice. We cannot give out all the details but what IV members should know is that these efforts should make each one of us proud and what we can do if we have a firm resolve. We were also the first to break this news even before anyone else or media could, and continued to update our members as time passed.
IV also thanks its contributing members and it is because of their contributions we were able to continue this effort. Many thanks to the members that are contributing now after this good news.
Please continue your support for this organization and be an integral member of this ever growing community, so that this journey can continue and we can end retrogression and have immigrationvoice as our voice.
Team IV
Job Well Done IV..kudos to you...big bow to you...
IV had worked very hard and had been pushing for this in the background. Our flower campaign, rally and other advocacy efforts all came together and helped us at a crunch time. We thank members that sent flowers and also walked in the San Jose heat for 4 hours. All that really shows our commitment to this cause.
We are happy that our efforts are successful and IV has been able to make a difference. Please also know that during this effort, IV was extremely active and decision makers heard our voice. We cannot give out all the details but what IV members should know is that these efforts should make each one of us proud and what we can do if we have a firm resolve. We were also the first to break this news even before anyone else or media could, and continued to update our members as time passed.
IV also thanks its contributing members and it is because of their contributions we were able to continue this effort. Many thanks to the members that are contributing now after this good news.
Please continue your support for this organization and be an integral member of this ever growing community, so that this journey can continue and we can end retrogression and have immigrationvoice as our voice.
Team IV
Job Well Done IV..kudos to you...big bow to you...
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ItIsNotFunny
03-06 02:17 PM
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gk_2000
04-15 08:08 PM
If it is not misue why does the embassy reject F1 visa if applicant cannot show proper ties to home country
Talk is cheap, anyone can talk anything. What is current position of DV to STEM visa bill?
Stapling GC to certificates now please don't make me laugh ......
There is no such sentiment what so even and i am not fighting but stating my disagreement with the whole idea that MS student add to the economy. While they a burden to US for 2 years and add nothing to the economy during the same 2, years a H1B contributes to the economy in form of taxes (SS, medicare State and Federal Tax)
Can you refute that ?????
Your turn ...........
All I want is for you to recognize, that what your argument may lead to, is that the F1 may be altered to be dual-intent, rather than invalidating the F1 to GC path. It is just a matter of perspective. You must be able to see the matter from other points of view
And let's try to avoid bashing other immigrants. Bring up points that help us all, or at least a majority of us. For example, I have an argument that The below INS law is impossible to implement.
USCIS - I-Link Reference (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.f6da51a2342135be7e9d7a10e0dc91a0/?vgnextoid=fa7e539dc4bed010VgnVCM1000000ecd190aRCR D&vgnextchannel=fa7e539dc4bed010VgnVCM1000000ecd190a RCRD&CH=act)
INA: ACT 245 - ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS OF NONIMMIGRANT TO THAT OF PERSON ADMITTED FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCE
Sec. 245. [8 U.S.C. 1255]
(a) The status of an alien who was inspected and admitted or paroled into the United States 1/ or the status of any other alien having an approved petition for classification as a VAWA self-petitioner 1aa/ may be adjusted by the Attorney General, in his discretion and under such regulations as he may prescribe, to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence if
(1) the alien makes an application for such adjustment,
(2) the alien is eligible to receive an immigrant visa and is admissible to the United States for permanent residence, and
(3) an immigrant visa is immediately available to him at the time his application is filed.
It is impossible to carry out #3, because the numbers just aren't there to arrive at a definitive conclusion, that an immigrant visa is available to a person.
What arguments for or against this can you make?
Talk is cheap, anyone can talk anything. What is current position of DV to STEM visa bill?
Stapling GC to certificates now please don't make me laugh ......
There is no such sentiment what so even and i am not fighting but stating my disagreement with the whole idea that MS student add to the economy. While they a burden to US for 2 years and add nothing to the economy during the same 2, years a H1B contributes to the economy in form of taxes (SS, medicare State and Federal Tax)
Can you refute that ?????
Your turn ...........
All I want is for you to recognize, that what your argument may lead to, is that the F1 may be altered to be dual-intent, rather than invalidating the F1 to GC path. It is just a matter of perspective. You must be able to see the matter from other points of view
And let's try to avoid bashing other immigrants. Bring up points that help us all, or at least a majority of us. For example, I have an argument that The below INS law is impossible to implement.
USCIS - I-Link Reference (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.f6da51a2342135be7e9d7a10e0dc91a0/?vgnextoid=fa7e539dc4bed010VgnVCM1000000ecd190aRCR D&vgnextchannel=fa7e539dc4bed010VgnVCM1000000ecd190a RCRD&CH=act)
INA: ACT 245 - ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS OF NONIMMIGRANT TO THAT OF PERSON ADMITTED FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCE
Sec. 245. [8 U.S.C. 1255]
(a) The status of an alien who was inspected and admitted or paroled into the United States 1/ or the status of any other alien having an approved petition for classification as a VAWA self-petitioner 1aa/ may be adjusted by the Attorney General, in his discretion and under such regulations as he may prescribe, to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence if
(1) the alien makes an application for such adjustment,
(2) the alien is eligible to receive an immigrant visa and is admissible to the United States for permanent residence, and
(3) an immigrant visa is immediately available to him at the time his application is filed.
It is impossible to carry out #3, because the numbers just aren't there to arrive at a definitive conclusion, that an immigrant visa is available to a person.
What arguments for or against this can you make?
gconmymind
11-16 12:49 PM
How to contribute to IV through PAYPAL for amount less than $100?
Not sure...but I have $50 recurring thru paypal...not sure how I did that, there should be an option...
Not sure...but I have $50 recurring thru paypal...not sure how I did that, there should be an option...
pappu
08-11 12:46 PM
There is nothing surprising about sept VB. Retrogression is here to stay unless any bill is passed. Please take note of the action item we have posted if we wish to see a change instead of waiting for VB and hoping for change.
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