
alisa
02-11 08:06 PM
BTW, you are right....
I was incorrectly equating personal actions and beliefs with IV's actions and goals. I apologize for that.
First of all, my action just represents myself, not IV. Secondly, I don't really care whether EB-3 ROW would quit or join IV. To be frank with you, my PD is just 3 month away from the current date (EB2 China). From what I know now, immigration reform won't reduce my waiting time significantly. I have contributed to this organization, but now I decide to take some action of my own instead of contribute to this organization. It's quite funny that you threaten to quit this organization. This organization would benefit you much more than people like me since you are in EB3 ROW. But it is totally your call. I don't care whether you quit or not.
I was incorrectly equating personal actions and beliefs with IV's actions and goals. I apologize for that.
First of all, my action just represents myself, not IV. Secondly, I don't really care whether EB-3 ROW would quit or join IV. To be frank with you, my PD is just 3 month away from the current date (EB2 China). From what I know now, immigration reform won't reduce my waiting time significantly. I have contributed to this organization, but now I decide to take some action of my own instead of contribute to this organization. It's quite funny that you threaten to quit this organization. This organization would benefit you much more than people like me since you are in EB3 ROW. But it is totally your call. I don't care whether you quit or not.
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joydiptac
05-12 11:08 PM
Nitin,
US archaic GC rules just lost a potential great immigrant to Canada.
And I agree that everyone should have a life. I suppose they have one too. They have the right to have their own opinion. Guess what? It might be that they like to hang around other Desis in the same boat that may be the reason why they come here. :D
BTW, Congratulations for your Candian PR.
n'
Joy
P.S> This immigration thing is like betting on a stock. Question is do you buy "puts" to insure your long position or not? For all you know Canda might turn out to be top dog in another decade. They have the resources, the land and a bunchof good people.
US archaic GC rules just lost a potential great immigrant to Canada.
And I agree that everyone should have a life. I suppose they have one too. They have the right to have their own opinion. Guess what? It might be that they like to hang around other Desis in the same boat that may be the reason why they come here. :D
BTW, Congratulations for your Candian PR.
n'
Joy
P.S> This immigration thing is like betting on a stock. Question is do you buy "puts" to insure your long position or not? For all you know Canda might turn out to be top dog in another decade. They have the resources, the land and a bunchof good people.

Alien
04-09 09:05 PM
Contributed 200$.Will do more if need be. Go Team IV go!
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Rajeev
01-31 10:31 AM
The questions are at number 11 and 23 in the list. I have asked my wife to vote too. Will ask all my friends to vote.
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eb3retro
06-13 09:28 PM
not sure how to do this. can some one in this thread create a poll just for eb3-India just to see a ball park number of people waiting in eb3 india and for how long they are waiting (may be we can start from jan 2001 all the way till jun 2008). This atleast would give us an idea of how many IVers are waiting in eb3 queue..pls discard if you did not like this idea. thanks.

sc3
09-24 01:55 AM
You are right, it is very hard to digest, even for you, who seems to support it. And, if I may add, your example it too "complicated" for me. Try giving easy example for me, I am kind a slow, maybe I should get some "preferential treatment". Yes, that's the word, "preferential".
Country quota is NOT affirmative action, nowhere even close. If you are socio-politically dominated by Indian or Chinese, yes, then it is affirmative action. But if you do not come from a place there Indian and Chinese imperial powers have taken over the country, then how are you socio-politically dominated by Indian or Chinese. And if you are not dominated by Indian or Chinese in the country where you came from, then how could it be "like" affarmative action.
Maybe you yet don't know, but Indian and Chinese EB applications cannot vote and they do not have any representation in the US government. So its not that you are "not properly represented" and Indian and Chinese have all the representation. WE ALL HAVE NO REPRESENTATION. Just so that its clear.
Your next argument is that you are "overwhelmed" by Indian and Chinese so there should be country-limits. Well, I can understand that, we are very overwhelming people. You see 40% of the world population gets 14% green card, we tend to become "overwhelming" for other.
Observation: Each time, I reply to each and every part of your post. But you totally ignore what I write. You did not answer whether you think you are equal? inferior? or superior? That is the question. Hope you answer that.
Quota system treats everybody anything but "equal". And this is not just the question of equality, because I am sure you agree that we are equals. It is the question of PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. You are in the category getting preferential treatment, so you oppose any change, you "create" arguements that you were "promised" a system when you came, and thus any change to the system, before you get your green card would be WRONG and UNFAIR. So you should continue to get that PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. And PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT to you is NOT WRONG AND UNFAIR. Right?
BTW, hope you liked the You tube video, Frank is really good. I do not want you to go, so that's why I posted the video. Hope it helped you to stick around. Now don't say you have the right to watch it 5 times and I can watch it only once because I am from India and you are ROW :D
Cheers,
I did answer you question, though not explicitly. I hinted that all of us are equal. And BTW: I am an Indian!! (with India as my chargeability area).
Everybody: no posts about frogs pulling down frogs, alright. This discussion is anything but.
And Thanks for the vid post. I am a sucker for comedy (anything to get out of the tragedy that is GC process).
Country quota is NOT affirmative action, nowhere even close. If you are socio-politically dominated by Indian or Chinese, yes, then it is affirmative action. But if you do not come from a place there Indian and Chinese imperial powers have taken over the country, then how are you socio-politically dominated by Indian or Chinese. And if you are not dominated by Indian or Chinese in the country where you came from, then how could it be "like" affarmative action.
Maybe you yet don't know, but Indian and Chinese EB applications cannot vote and they do not have any representation in the US government. So its not that you are "not properly represented" and Indian and Chinese have all the representation. WE ALL HAVE NO REPRESENTATION. Just so that its clear.
Your next argument is that you are "overwhelmed" by Indian and Chinese so there should be country-limits. Well, I can understand that, we are very overwhelming people. You see 40% of the world population gets 14% green card, we tend to become "overwhelming" for other.
Observation: Each time, I reply to each and every part of your post. But you totally ignore what I write. You did not answer whether you think you are equal? inferior? or superior? That is the question. Hope you answer that.
Quota system treats everybody anything but "equal". And this is not just the question of equality, because I am sure you agree that we are equals. It is the question of PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. You are in the category getting preferential treatment, so you oppose any change, you "create" arguements that you were "promised" a system when you came, and thus any change to the system, before you get your green card would be WRONG and UNFAIR. So you should continue to get that PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. And PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT to you is NOT WRONG AND UNFAIR. Right?
BTW, hope you liked the You tube video, Frank is really good. I do not want you to go, so that's why I posted the video. Hope it helped you to stick around. Now don't say you have the right to watch it 5 times and I can watch it only once because I am from India and you are ROW :D
Cheers,
I did answer you question, though not explicitly. I hinted that all of us are equal. And BTW: I am an Indian!! (with India as my chargeability area).
Everybody: no posts about frogs pulling down frogs, alright. This discussion is anything but.
And Thanks for the vid post. I am a sucker for comedy (anything to get out of the tragedy that is GC process).
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pmat
07-22 08:21 AM
For me the frustrating aspect is that my first son is in college. Arizona State University is forcing me to pay out-of-state fees and have stated that I could only pay in-state tuition after filing I-485! So the money I could have invested in business is going to college tuition. Another son is in senior class in high school and will be going to college next year. Yet another son will be going to college in 2008.
I have thought of going back to Nigeria but I'll like my sons to finish college here. So, I have decided to stay until I get GC. My wife and I are both studying for Masters (another big expense for us!).
We spend most of our time between studies, volunteering and other community activities.
Could others on this forum who have college-age kids tell me how they and their families are coping with expense of college tuition?
I believe that it depends on the state. I don't have any kids but my wife is going to school here in Virginia. The rule here is you don't need a PR to qualify for instate tuition. If you are on H4, you qualify for instate. But dependants on F1 visa don't qualify.
The only downside is H-dependants cannot work in on-campus jobs and they won't get CPT/OPT. I believe that a good work-around in such states is to be on H4 for first three years and then change to F1.
**pmat
I have thought of going back to Nigeria but I'll like my sons to finish college here. So, I have decided to stay until I get GC. My wife and I are both studying for Masters (another big expense for us!).
We spend most of our time between studies, volunteering and other community activities.
Could others on this forum who have college-age kids tell me how they and their families are coping with expense of college tuition?
I believe that it depends on the state. I don't have any kids but my wife is going to school here in Virginia. The rule here is you don't need a PR to qualify for instate tuition. If you are on H4, you qualify for instate. But dependants on F1 visa don't qualify.
The only downside is H-dependants cannot work in on-campus jobs and they won't get CPT/OPT. I believe that a good work-around in such states is to be on H4 for first three years and then change to F1.
**pmat
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gumpena
09-15 06:42 PM
Our only hope is HR5882. Please start calling congressmen..
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gjoe
11-01 03:52 PM
If we can understand why most of us want a GC we can understand the poll better.
In my opinion most of us here want the GC because we want to change jobs for better pay, better professional growth, to live in a better place, better work environment, etc, the list can be endless. ( I guess if you don't have all these then you don't have freedom)
If we can get our GC's no matter with which employer we work as long as we do our job ( as mentioned in our LC) we will not be bothered too much about our GC process ( We are dependent on our employer sponsoriing our GC so we are not independent)
I can say atleast half of us who are waiting for the GC don't have any ambitions as of now to take active role in building this society, if we really had such we can do that at our home countries too.
Like someone said in this thread " Reverse Brain Drain " is an empty slogan if we use ourselves call ourselves the brain which America needs to keep it going.
In my opinion most of us here want the GC because we want to change jobs for better pay, better professional growth, to live in a better place, better work environment, etc, the list can be endless. ( I guess if you don't have all these then you don't have freedom)
If we can get our GC's no matter with which employer we work as long as we do our job ( as mentioned in our LC) we will not be bothered too much about our GC process ( We are dependent on our employer sponsoriing our GC so we are not independent)
I can say atleast half of us who are waiting for the GC don't have any ambitions as of now to take active role in building this society, if we really had such we can do that at our home countries too.
Like someone said in this thread " Reverse Brain Drain " is an empty slogan if we use ourselves call ourselves the brain which America needs to keep it going.
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superdoc
08-14 08:40 PM
agree with u..i gave u green !
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nixstor
05-23 07:32 PM
When I called Lucille Raybal Allard's office last week, a rep from the office had an extensive conversation with me about both the bills and they have not heard about them before. He recognized me when I called him back to check if they made a decision.
Alright Folks, Let us not get distracted. We have lots of work to do.
Santb,
Right on. Thanks for confirming my hunch
Folks,
Watch out for stuff coming out after Memorial day. We will have more similar work to do.
Alright Folks, Let us not get distracted. We have lots of work to do.
Santb,
Right on. Thanks for confirming my hunch
Folks,
Watch out for stuff coming out after Memorial day. We will have more similar work to do.
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logiclife
04-17 05:55 PM
The sad part is:
About 700-800 out of 3000 have contributed. And they are contributing again and again. Many of them have crossed $500 in personal contributions.
The other 2200 members have contributed nothing
About 700-800 out of 3000 have contributed. And they are contributing again and again. Many of them have crossed $500 in personal contributions.
The other 2200 members have contributed nothing
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GC_1000Watt
01-09 12:18 AM
This shows that the backlog is more than the numbers on USCIS website. People need to stop wasting time on tracking and spend time in their office work. Backlog means more business money for lawyers and trackers. IV is very small. Unless IV had hundreds of thousands of members, they cannot do lobbying like AILA or Microsoft. EB3 India and now EB3ROW is in a pitiable state. All those EB3ROW who used to be happy will now see the reality. Thank god I ported to EB2 but the dates for EB2 do not move enough. I think anyone who can should port to EB2 ASAP. This is the only solution.
You're right. No offence but no authority seems to be listening to IV suggestions. I agree that people at IV are doing great job, but the problem is nobody is listening. They just don't care. And this think will go on & on. I remember s'body suggesting hunger strike and at that point of time I thought that won't work. But now it seems we have to go extreme and do hunger strike and stuff to pressurize this crappy system.
EB3 people don't think I am being selfish here. The truth is we have to work unitely and pressurize for visa recapture. That will be beneficial for e'body.
Lets target the 'Asses' asking for a kick. Let's all kick ass.
You're right. No offence but no authority seems to be listening to IV suggestions. I agree that people at IV are doing great job, but the problem is nobody is listening. They just don't care. And this think will go on & on. I remember s'body suggesting hunger strike and at that point of time I thought that won't work. But now it seems we have to go extreme and do hunger strike and stuff to pressurize this crappy system.
EB3 people don't think I am being selfish here. The truth is we have to work unitely and pressurize for visa recapture. That will be beneficial for e'body.
Lets target the 'Asses' asking for a kick. Let's all kick ass.
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alisa
02-07 07:45 AM
And not just because I am from EB-3 ROW.
But, because everything that I have learnt seems to indicate that EB-3 ROW is getting a lot of visa numbers. So why the hell would it be stuck??
I wonder why EB 3 ROW is stuck at Aug 02. I guess it should move faster.
But, because everything that I have learnt seems to indicate that EB-3 ROW is getting a lot of visa numbers. So why the hell would it be stuck??
I wonder why EB 3 ROW is stuck at Aug 02. I guess it should move faster.
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abhijitrajan
07-14 09:49 PM
I just put forth my thoughts. Statements should be put under quotes only when quoted verbatim. Of course you follow your own judgement. Good luck and thanks for your effort against this character.
Abhijit, Thank you for your suggestions. If you watch the Utube video, Rep Tancredo clearly said that H1-B visa holders overstay their visas. As far as the "glass house" goes I can't change the petition even if it has one signature. I wrote this to create maximum impact and we can only hope that it does.
Below is link to the Lou Dobbs' episode.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi_c9ep9uKI
Abhijit, Thank you for your suggestions. If you watch the Utube video, Rep Tancredo clearly said that H1-B visa holders overstay their visas. As far as the "glass house" goes I can't change the petition even if it has one signature. I wrote this to create maximum impact and we can only hope that it does.
Below is link to the Lou Dobbs' episode.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi_c9ep9uKI
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chanduv23
02-01 12:58 PM
Consulting companies bring physicians to the US annd place them for research and observerships, these candidates while doing research, do their USMLE and when they get a residency transfer h1b.
I have seen newspaper advertisements in India inviting MBBS doctors for these jobs
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kubmilegaGC
09-15 11:20 PM
kubmilegaGC - Yeah, lets hope so. Let's see who is going to be the last man standing!!! :D
Btw, do you know the sequence to get to the POJ method for TSC center? I am planning on calling them tomorrow.
Thanks!
PRESS 4 instead of 3 (outside of normal processing time) - I guess go back couple pages on this thread or "Sept approvals (our very own favorite) thread :) - you will get the details.
Lets keep each other posted.
Thanks,
Btw, do you know the sequence to get to the POJ method for TSC center? I am planning on calling them tomorrow.
Thanks!
PRESS 4 instead of 3 (outside of normal processing time) - I guess go back couple pages on this thread or "Sept approvals (our very own favorite) thread :) - you will get the details.
Lets keep each other posted.
Thanks,
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coopheal
07-18 09:28 AM
...Frankly, all I can do is register my disappointment at both your response and your attitude.While I get it that IV is actively involved in doing things over the years aimed at resolving this issue, I might feel that I could respect and maybe even understand these efforts better if IV kept its website up to date and all members who sign in updated on what's happening.
...Raji
Donor forums is not to close the doors. While many non-donor members are stilling in search of excuses for not contributing donor forum is providing open vast potential for collaboration within serious people for serious cause of getting GC.
There is no need for getting disappointed... start contributing for your own good. Once you are in donor forum you will get up to date information.
...Raji
Donor forums is not to close the doors. While many non-donor members are stilling in search of excuses for not contributing donor forum is providing open vast potential for collaboration within serious people for serious cause of getting GC.
There is no need for getting disappointed... start contributing for your own good. Once you are in donor forum you will get up to date information.
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kaisersose
11-02 03:19 PM
nope, if the alternative to the GC system is outsourcing (as you yourself mentioned) all the profits go to big corporations and our salaries are spent in India. The corporations are notorious for avoiding taxes so teh government gets nothing. By making us stay here longer (on H1 or GC) we end up spending our salaries here, paying taxes, paying social security, paying medicare.
65K H1-Bs earning 70k a year is 4.5 billion dollars. 140K new GC holders each year earning the same comes out to 10 billion dollars. Out of that taxes alone are an easy couple of billion or more dollars. Then take into account the side-effect (we buy cars, we buy appliances, we rent apartments) and the contributions we make to this economy are a lot.
And to say that we are stealing jobs is also inaccurate. There is nothing called stealing-a-job. In general every job is worth how much someone is willing to be paid to do it. If an American citizen wants 100K and the GC holder wants 90K and the H1-B visa guy wants 80K (and all of them are going to work in the same city and same office) the job is worth 80K. The H1-B visa holder is not stealing a job. The days of knowing HTML tags and commanding a salary of 100K a year (1999-2000) are long gone and now replaced by 'that kind of work gets done in India or Ukraine for 10k a year'. Looking at the resumes we got in response to job ads placed in the last 3 companies I worked for, there are simply not enough qualified americans interested. Thats a fact. So the IT sector needs help from abroad to get the job done. They can either send the work over, or bring the people here. Bringing the people here also benefits the rest of the economy.
I did not say outsourcing is the only alternative. I said they will have their own people take these jobs or if not, they will ship out these jobs. Do we really believe there aren't enough Americans to handle IT work in America?
H-1b is not cheap labor. American companies prefer to hire H-1bs with US master's degrees or with substantial amounts of US experience. When they do hire foreigners, they do not discriminate against them by paying them lesser.
H-1bs are abused by desi vendors and the like who take advantage of the indenturing nature of the visa and also on the naivety of "fresh off the boat" people who newly arrive into the US and are unfamilar with US economy. They are starry eyed, still busy converting each dollar into their local currency and feeling happy they are earning relatively more and dreaming about paying off their EMIs back home, sooner. It takes quite a few months for them to settle down and understand US dynamics.
Lastly, we should not confuse the need for H-1bs as equal to the need for GC holders. Take the example of middle eastern countries. They use foreign labor, but they never grant them permanent status. That way, they do not get stuck with them in the event of a downturn. American could have chosen to follow a similar model. Use H-1b temps when necessary and send them out when they are expendable. They have no reaons to hand out GCs, like I said earlier. The benefit is all ours.
65K H1-Bs earning 70k a year is 4.5 billion dollars. 140K new GC holders each year earning the same comes out to 10 billion dollars. Out of that taxes alone are an easy couple of billion or more dollars. Then take into account the side-effect (we buy cars, we buy appliances, we rent apartments) and the contributions we make to this economy are a lot.
And to say that we are stealing jobs is also inaccurate. There is nothing called stealing-a-job. In general every job is worth how much someone is willing to be paid to do it. If an American citizen wants 100K and the GC holder wants 90K and the H1-B visa guy wants 80K (and all of them are going to work in the same city and same office) the job is worth 80K. The H1-B visa holder is not stealing a job. The days of knowing HTML tags and commanding a salary of 100K a year (1999-2000) are long gone and now replaced by 'that kind of work gets done in India or Ukraine for 10k a year'. Looking at the resumes we got in response to job ads placed in the last 3 companies I worked for, there are simply not enough qualified americans interested. Thats a fact. So the IT sector needs help from abroad to get the job done. They can either send the work over, or bring the people here. Bringing the people here also benefits the rest of the economy.
I did not say outsourcing is the only alternative. I said they will have their own people take these jobs or if not, they will ship out these jobs. Do we really believe there aren't enough Americans to handle IT work in America?
H-1b is not cheap labor. American companies prefer to hire H-1bs with US master's degrees or with substantial amounts of US experience. When they do hire foreigners, they do not discriminate against them by paying them lesser.
H-1bs are abused by desi vendors and the like who take advantage of the indenturing nature of the visa and also on the naivety of "fresh off the boat" people who newly arrive into the US and are unfamilar with US economy. They are starry eyed, still busy converting each dollar into their local currency and feeling happy they are earning relatively more and dreaming about paying off their EMIs back home, sooner. It takes quite a few months for them to settle down and understand US dynamics.
Lastly, we should not confuse the need for H-1bs as equal to the need for GC holders. Take the example of middle eastern countries. They use foreign labor, but they never grant them permanent status. That way, they do not get stuck with them in the event of a downturn. American could have chosen to follow a similar model. Use H-1b temps when necessary and send them out when they are expendable. They have no reaons to hand out GCs, like I said earlier. The benefit is all ours.
deardar
08-25 11:16 AM
Just close your a/c and open with an other bank.
There is no point waging a useless battle with those folks.
Try someother option.
There is no point waging a useless battle with those folks.
Try someother option.
drirshad
06-09 09:42 PM
Friday, June 06, 2008
The tortoise continues down the path
Our legislation, HR 5924, continues to gain support. We�re up to ten co-sponsors who have signed onto Rep. Wexler�s bill:
Rep Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. [WI-5] - 4/29/2008
Rep McCarthy, Carolyn [NY-4] - 5/14/2008
Rep Putnam, Adam H. [FL-12] - 5/14/2008
Rep Cohen, Steve [TN-9] - 5/22/2008
Rep Pastor, Ed [AZ-4] - 5/22/2008
Rep Andrews, Robert E. [NJ-1] - 6/3/2008
Rep Davis, Danny K. [IL-7] - 6/3/2008
Rep Johnson, Eddie Bernice [TX-30] - 6/3/2008
Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] - 6/3/2008
Rep Wasserman Schultz, Debbie [FL-20] - 6/4/2008
Our efforts on Wednesday and Thursday should lead to additional co-sponsors in the next few days and weeks.
The most notable piece of news � beyond the momentum that we�re gathering with co-sponsors � is that on Thursday June 12, the subcommittee on immigration, citizenship, refugees, border security, and international law will have a formal hearing on our bill. We are working with the Congressional staffers to identify the appropriate witnesses to speak on this urgent issue.
Hammond Law
The tortoise continues down the path
Our legislation, HR 5924, continues to gain support. We�re up to ten co-sponsors who have signed onto Rep. Wexler�s bill:
Rep Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. [WI-5] - 4/29/2008
Rep McCarthy, Carolyn [NY-4] - 5/14/2008
Rep Putnam, Adam H. [FL-12] - 5/14/2008
Rep Cohen, Steve [TN-9] - 5/22/2008
Rep Pastor, Ed [AZ-4] - 5/22/2008
Rep Andrews, Robert E. [NJ-1] - 6/3/2008
Rep Davis, Danny K. [IL-7] - 6/3/2008
Rep Johnson, Eddie Bernice [TX-30] - 6/3/2008
Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] - 6/3/2008
Rep Wasserman Schultz, Debbie [FL-20] - 6/4/2008
Our efforts on Wednesday and Thursday should lead to additional co-sponsors in the next few days and weeks.
The most notable piece of news � beyond the momentum that we�re gathering with co-sponsors � is that on Thursday June 12, the subcommittee on immigration, citizenship, refugees, border security, and international law will have a formal hearing on our bill. We are working with the Congressional staffers to identify the appropriate witnesses to speak on this urgent issue.
Hammond Law
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