StuckInTheMuck
04-28 12:28 PM
Just a note( i am not trying to deter anybody or argue against your compilation) that by law all foreigners are required to carry their passport, how many of us follow that, on that note, I will not carry original with me at all. just my 0.02 cents.
GCCovet
True, we do not carry passports every time we step out of our house (for example, when going to pick up Bud Lite from my neighboring grocery store). But I would think that passports, unlike the PR card, are not designed to be tucked into your wallet for carrying around. Also, for PR cards the always-carry-it-on-your-person law is explicitly stated (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=fe17e6b0eb13d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=4f719c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD), whereas, stray cases notwithstanding (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=16736), I am not aware of a similar law for passports (except maybe when you do not have your usual ID, such as DL).
GCCovet
True, we do not carry passports every time we step out of our house (for example, when going to pick up Bud Lite from my neighboring grocery store). But I would think that passports, unlike the PR card, are not designed to be tucked into your wallet for carrying around. Also, for PR cards the always-carry-it-on-your-person law is explicitly stated (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=fe17e6b0eb13d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=4f719c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD), whereas, stray cases notwithstanding (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=16736), I am not aware of a similar law for passports (except maybe when you do not have your usual ID, such as DL).
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cowboy
07-18 01:55 PM
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prashantc
01-28 01:53 AM
I appeared for an interview on Jan 2nd. It took the consulate officers 16 days to call me and ask for original documents again. Darn PIMS verification! I resubmitted the documents on Jan 22nd through the drop box... and have been calling them daily to track the progress. They say they need 7 working days from the day the documents are received. I have already had to reschedule the flights once..and my employer is getting worried now. If I had known about the delays at Chennai post before, I wont have applied here. Chennai sux!!!
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saimrathi
07-11 09:06 PM
I had to answer as NO as i live in northeastern PA... the poll should have had an option "I would love to but I live too far away.. but I'll be there in spirit" .. :)
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gc_chahiye
11-02 04:45 PM
Do we really believe there aren't enough Americans to handle IT work in America?
yes. I honestly do. Having been through multiple recruitment attempts, at three different companies, in the bay area of all places: there are simply not enough qualified/interested american citizens available.
H-1b is not cheap labor. American companies prefer to hire H-1bs with US master's degrees or with substantial amounts of US experience. When they do hire foreigners, they do not discriminate against them by paying them lesser.
H-1bs are abused by desi vendors and the like who take advantage of the indenturing nature of the visa and also on the naivety of "fresh off the boat" people who newly arrive into the US and are unfamilar with US economy. They are starry eyed, still busy converting each dollar into their local currency and feeling happy they are earning relatively more and dreaming about paying off their EMIs back home, sooner. It takes quite a few months for them to settle down and understand US dynamics.
I agree.
Lastly, we should not confuse the need for H-1bs as equal to the need for GC holders. Take the example of middle eastern countries. They use foreign labor, but they never grant them permanent status. That way, they do not get stuck with them in the event of a downturn. American could have chosen to follow a similar model. Use H-1b temps when necessary and send them out when they are expendable. They have no reaons to hand out GCs, like I said earlier. The benefit is all ours.
good point. However unlike the kind of work being done in the middle-east, there are a ton of companies in the US founded or co-founded by immigrants. There is a reason this place is called the land of immigrants. Handing out GCs gives these people options to start companies and many many of them do. this creates jobs, creates more intellectual capital, all within the US. In 6 years if you make a cook in Dubai leave and go back to Kerala (just picking a typical example) he is not going to do anything to compete with Dubai. You make these H1-Bs who have spent 6 years here (working on various products, technologies, ramping up, understanding customers, relationships etc) go back, they are going to start companies in India. Now all the capital stays out there. The same 5 products that could have been built in the US and sold to lots of companies abroad, will now have to be bought by the US.
If there is any kind of immigration that I think the US does not gain much from, its the diversity lottery and to an extend the chain migration that comes from family based immigration. EB immigration is a BIG win for the US economy.
yes. I honestly do. Having been through multiple recruitment attempts, at three different companies, in the bay area of all places: there are simply not enough qualified/interested american citizens available.
H-1b is not cheap labor. American companies prefer to hire H-1bs with US master's degrees or with substantial amounts of US experience. When they do hire foreigners, they do not discriminate against them by paying them lesser.
H-1bs are abused by desi vendors and the like who take advantage of the indenturing nature of the visa and also on the naivety of "fresh off the boat" people who newly arrive into the US and are unfamilar with US economy. They are starry eyed, still busy converting each dollar into their local currency and feeling happy they are earning relatively more and dreaming about paying off their EMIs back home, sooner. It takes quite a few months for them to settle down and understand US dynamics.
I agree.
Lastly, we should not confuse the need for H-1bs as equal to the need for GC holders. Take the example of middle eastern countries. They use foreign labor, but they never grant them permanent status. That way, they do not get stuck with them in the event of a downturn. American could have chosen to follow a similar model. Use H-1b temps when necessary and send them out when they are expendable. They have no reaons to hand out GCs, like I said earlier. The benefit is all ours.
good point. However unlike the kind of work being done in the middle-east, there are a ton of companies in the US founded or co-founded by immigrants. There is a reason this place is called the land of immigrants. Handing out GCs gives these people options to start companies and many many of them do. this creates jobs, creates more intellectual capital, all within the US. In 6 years if you make a cook in Dubai leave and go back to Kerala (just picking a typical example) he is not going to do anything to compete with Dubai. You make these H1-Bs who have spent 6 years here (working on various products, technologies, ramping up, understanding customers, relationships etc) go back, they are going to start companies in India. Now all the capital stays out there. The same 5 products that could have been built in the US and sold to lots of companies abroad, will now have to be bought by the US.
If there is any kind of immigration that I think the US does not gain much from, its the diversity lottery and to an extend the chain migration that comes from family based immigration. EB immigration is a BIG win for the US economy.
h4hopeful
07-14 02:09 PM
They have all gathered, and probably some media is there, I bet that Logiclife - Franklin - Etc. are updating the core team about the events, if anybody is having any conversation with anyone at the rally please post the number of people, media, etc, thanks
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Gravitation
09-29 02:54 AM
Was the H1B through a body shopper? I"ve heard of reopening all old cases of a company if they find a dubious H1B sponsorship, or if a company gets blacklisted.
If your company is solid and your case is genuine... you probably have nothing to worry about.
If your company is solid and your case is genuine... you probably have nothing to worry about.
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ps57002
12-01 05:59 PM
I was thinking if people feel they are getting something (for those that don't feel they are getting anything from contributing to IV even though IV is trying to do so much for people) like a WII at a chance of some small amount of $10...i'm thinking of how people play the lotto..put in a small amount of money and hope for something big. more people may put in a small amount of money to get something they like...
just a thought...
just a thought...
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ChalapathiChitturi
10-30 03:52 AM
Reverse brain drain will not happen with warning. But it is happening. I know 4 of my friends (Great guys) left US just because of the current immigration issues.
People might not take decission now, but when time comes, that happens all of a sudden, they will not protest or even inform any one, they just catch the plane. No one knows that it has happend.
But can you bring them back if you want. IMPOSSIBLE.
Also Imagin, US is in good situation (not really but OK.), so they are ignoring immigrants, imagin what happens if they want people tomorrow for their survival. With this background, I am sure that they are going to get only JUNK.
People might not take decission now, but when time comes, that happens all of a sudden, they will not protest or even inform any one, they just catch the plane. No one knows that it has happend.
But can you bring them back if you want. IMPOSSIBLE.
Also Imagin, US is in good situation (not really but OK.), so they are ignoring immigrants, imagin what happens if they want people tomorrow for their survival. With this background, I am sure that they are going to get only JUNK.
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lonedesi
06-07 08:34 AM
Logiclife,
You have expressed your thoughts so wonderfully on this issue in such a simple and sensible manner. In fact, I am enlightened with some of the things you have mentioned in your post.
I am proud that we have such a thoughtful and knowledgeable person as part of our core group at IV. Keep up the good work and thanks for your efforts.
You have expressed your thoughts so wonderfully on this issue in such a simple and sensible manner. In fact, I am enlightened with some of the things you have mentioned in your post.
I am proud that we have such a thoughtful and knowledgeable person as part of our core group at IV. Keep up the good work and thanks for your efforts.
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insbaby
07-18 03:51 PM
when i spoke i didnt speak to normal CS rep they forwarded to me Info officer at Nebraska service center , now the key point is they clearly informed us that they have withdrawn the earlier notice and they said they have to open these july files. If they have just completed june filings they wouldnt have even touched july ones for sure. May be the ones returned which are very small in number are for casing whose dates are not current . for ex. if some one has sent app in normal pririty post expecting to reach on july 2 but reached early and got rejected it happened. so its pretty clear none of us have got the files back , all of three attorneys to comp said the same , my friends attorneys said the same , so we dont get in to too many things now , lets wait till next week or around 25th if we still dont receive then they asked me call back so that they can escalate this , she claims even when they reject they have to create a rejection letter and she clearly told that she was not aware that NSC did that type for these July ones.
Are we looking to get the packages back?
Are we looking to get the packages back?
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vallabhu
01-30 09:41 AM
DOL should not have given this advance notice, I am sure that all Desi consulting companies now aware of this rule will try to sell of their approved labors before April and approved labors will be available even in vegetable market.
There is lot of chance they would do this, and unfortunately we cannot avoid that, lets counter this by creating awareness among our members and GC seeker's community of how much risk involved in buying an approved labor at this time.
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There is lot of chance they would do this, and unfortunately we cannot avoid that, lets counter this by creating awareness among our members and GC seeker's community of how much risk involved in buying an approved labor at this time.
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deba
01-30 08:10 PM
Note: the question # keeps changing. Now it is #69, I wonder if it has something to do with the no of votes for each question.
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wawa
09-30 01:28 AM
What are your priority dates? They may now be working on your GC application.
I've already got my GC approved in Feb. 2007.
I've already got my GC approved in Feb. 2007.
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Brightsider
07-24 02:53 PM
Let me give this a shot:
Brightsider/Raji,
Going by your id registration date, I am presuming you are new to this site and do not know the history of what transpired over the last few years. There are hundreds of threads/discussions/posts where these arguments have been made and answered. We (all of us) are seeing increased interest in solving our EB-GC problems because of hopeless retrogression and a ray of hope in terms of CIR. Just because one shows new interest, you cannot expect immediate consolation and agreement on what you say/propose.
There were numerous times when members felt a specific campaign and/or item needs to be pursued. Serious discussions happened and eventually the advice of core which gets its info from various sources supported or not. There is nothing to stop you or I from pursuing an option.
I for many months did not understand the rationale and the way the system/politics function in this country. I still do not understand. BUT I do understand certain basic things:
1. How laws are crafted: the process, the resources involved and other technical matters.
2. Lobbying and advocacy: What role they play when dealing with lawmaking. Go read about the healthcare bill and what is happening in the Congress, lobbying, interest groups, associations, ordinary citizens, PACs, non-partisan groups. you might get a taste of what this is all about.
3. Systems: USCIS, DOL, Homeland Security etc
4. Politics: The main parties involved (Dems, Republicans). Who reacts to what and what their core values are. What is left, middle, right. who is where.
5. How national and state politics matter.
I am going to generalize here a bit: A lot of members who get their info from CNN or Google Reader or other 'mainstream' media sources might get either a black or white version of news/happenings. I quickly realized there are numerous shades of gray when dealing with Washington DC. How politics of left, middle and right come into play, which Senator or representative votes which way and why, etc. Listening to a press conference and reading an article on CNN does not give one insight into politics. These are the 'backend' intelligence which I trust core to know and advice us. I do not expect them to reveal their sources nor specific tactics. Most often than not, there is a rational explanation.
In this specific case, my take is: AILA with all their nobel intentions are in the 'business' of making money from folks like us and our employers. There are many shades here and it is not all black or white as it may seem. Like a member pointed out, AILA does not represent just EB or legal immigration. There are other things involved which may be detrimental to us (you do not want to be bracketed in the same category as illegals or want amnesty as an example). Apart from this, timing is critical.
One of the most important parties apart from Lawmakers is our opponents. Anti-immigrants who wants to know tactics, strategy: who we are calling, whom we are faxing, whom we are meeting, how we work, etc. They doggedly follow and couteract many items. For every fax/call/email you send there might be a counter reply from anti-immigrants. When core suggests confidentiality and secrecy, those I believe are not some magic/secret cloakish things but a matter of pragmatic reality. That is the world we are in and to be successful, we have to deal with those realities.
Giving out updated information is not as simple as it seems. These are steps which can be easily retraced and antis can quickly use those steps and backstab us, crippling our efforts. Updated information == tactics. My last point is about: Donors Vs Non-donors. Do you know that you need not be a donor to volunteer ? Try getting in touch with folks at IV. There is a lot you can do and you seem to be the right person whom we need on our side. I urge you to contact IV.
Thanks Qasleuth,
I was resigned to seeing a lot of ire directed my way, and was pleasantly surprised to read your lenghty and reasoned reply. And the important thing was that you were able to get your point across without antagonizing or making me feel stupid and low.
You are bang on target with your observations and explanations. Having been reading IV threads for over three-four years, (or is it five, I lose count), I have always found it to be a great resource. It is only of late that I have been posting concerns and suggestions. So I have been witness to attacks of tunnel rats and others and also aware of their rants and ruses. I saw the advocacy effort of July 2007, and the tremendous synergies generated by IV. The short point is that IV is not new to me, although the converse is true.
Now on the issue of AILA template, your reasoning is candid and well argued. I agree that when I first suggested that we use the AILA template I had not fully considered all the issues that you highlighted. It is a different matter that I have no regrets for having done so, for reasons that I find appropriate. I am sure you have no quarrel with that, having said that each of us is entitled to our opinions and pathways.
Thanks once again, got to go to a meeting.......will catch up later.
Brightsider/Raji,
Going by your id registration date, I am presuming you are new to this site and do not know the history of what transpired over the last few years. There are hundreds of threads/discussions/posts where these arguments have been made and answered. We (all of us) are seeing increased interest in solving our EB-GC problems because of hopeless retrogression and a ray of hope in terms of CIR. Just because one shows new interest, you cannot expect immediate consolation and agreement on what you say/propose.
There were numerous times when members felt a specific campaign and/or item needs to be pursued. Serious discussions happened and eventually the advice of core which gets its info from various sources supported or not. There is nothing to stop you or I from pursuing an option.
I for many months did not understand the rationale and the way the system/politics function in this country. I still do not understand. BUT I do understand certain basic things:
1. How laws are crafted: the process, the resources involved and other technical matters.
2. Lobbying and advocacy: What role they play when dealing with lawmaking. Go read about the healthcare bill and what is happening in the Congress, lobbying, interest groups, associations, ordinary citizens, PACs, non-partisan groups. you might get a taste of what this is all about.
3. Systems: USCIS, DOL, Homeland Security etc
4. Politics: The main parties involved (Dems, Republicans). Who reacts to what and what their core values are. What is left, middle, right. who is where.
5. How national and state politics matter.
I am going to generalize here a bit: A lot of members who get their info from CNN or Google Reader or other 'mainstream' media sources might get either a black or white version of news/happenings. I quickly realized there are numerous shades of gray when dealing with Washington DC. How politics of left, middle and right come into play, which Senator or representative votes which way and why, etc. Listening to a press conference and reading an article on CNN does not give one insight into politics. These are the 'backend' intelligence which I trust core to know and advice us. I do not expect them to reveal their sources nor specific tactics. Most often than not, there is a rational explanation.
In this specific case, my take is: AILA with all their nobel intentions are in the 'business' of making money from folks like us and our employers. There are many shades here and it is not all black or white as it may seem. Like a member pointed out, AILA does not represent just EB or legal immigration. There are other things involved which may be detrimental to us (you do not want to be bracketed in the same category as illegals or want amnesty as an example). Apart from this, timing is critical.
One of the most important parties apart from Lawmakers is our opponents. Anti-immigrants who wants to know tactics, strategy: who we are calling, whom we are faxing, whom we are meeting, how we work, etc. They doggedly follow and couteract many items. For every fax/call/email you send there might be a counter reply from anti-immigrants. When core suggests confidentiality and secrecy, those I believe are not some magic/secret cloakish things but a matter of pragmatic reality. That is the world we are in and to be successful, we have to deal with those realities.
Giving out updated information is not as simple as it seems. These are steps which can be easily retraced and antis can quickly use those steps and backstab us, crippling our efforts. Updated information == tactics. My last point is about: Donors Vs Non-donors. Do you know that you need not be a donor to volunteer ? Try getting in touch with folks at IV. There is a lot you can do and you seem to be the right person whom we need on our side. I urge you to contact IV.
Thanks Qasleuth,
I was resigned to seeing a lot of ire directed my way, and was pleasantly surprised to read your lenghty and reasoned reply. And the important thing was that you were able to get your point across without antagonizing or making me feel stupid and low.
You are bang on target with your observations and explanations. Having been reading IV threads for over three-four years, (or is it five, I lose count), I have always found it to be a great resource. It is only of late that I have been posting concerns and suggestions. So I have been witness to attacks of tunnel rats and others and also aware of their rants and ruses. I saw the advocacy effort of July 2007, and the tremendous synergies generated by IV. The short point is that IV is not new to me, although the converse is true.
Now on the issue of AILA template, your reasoning is candid and well argued. I agree that when I first suggested that we use the AILA template I had not fully considered all the issues that you highlighted. It is a different matter that I have no regrets for having done so, for reasons that I find appropriate. I am sure you have no quarrel with that, having said that each of us is entitled to our opinions and pathways.
Thanks once again, got to go to a meeting.......will catch up later.
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ken
08-11 05:44 PM
I think some members have put their votes in wrong bucket.
Please check bucket BEFORE NOV 2002 and click on each member you will see some members from PD 2006 put their votes in this bucket.
Please check bucket BEFORE NOV 2002 and click on each member you will see some members from PD 2006 put their votes in this bucket.
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congratulations!
when did you apply, how soon you got it? what did it involve? are there backlogs? you plan on sponsoring your family?
most answers are already around, thanks to stuckinmuck, but it never hurts to get it from the horse's mouth.
when did you apply, how soon you got it? what did it involve? are there backlogs? you plan on sponsoring your family?
most answers are already around, thanks to stuckinmuck, but it never hurts to get it from the horse's mouth.
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FraudGultee
04-19 08:38 AM
16 hrs and no green card is too much pain. Kudos to you for being so patient. Have you considered applying in EB2?
With your experience you can change your job and use it to get Eb2
all those EB3 guys out there waiting for so long you should think about porting to EB2. All the information is on line, lot of discussion has happened, most of the people know the process.. so be proactive rather than examining patience. last thing i would like to see is some EB3 guy comes in and ask for some IV initiative to stream line porting :)
With your experience you can change your job and use it to get Eb2
all those EB3 guys out there waiting for so long you should think about porting to EB2. All the information is on line, lot of discussion has happened, most of the people know the process.. so be proactive rather than examining patience. last thing i would like to see is some EB3 guy comes in and ask for some IV initiative to stream line porting :)
senthil
02-05 06:07 PM
i personally vote for "one step at a time approach", which is been thoughtfully discussed and hand-picked , especially after thinking all the limitations we have in terms of $$, political support, member support, contribution support, etc etc
remember:
on every bill and every single effort we try to make after all these pains, every single mistake we make will cost us 6 months or more before we re-group educate memebers and others about what we can ask for in the next and satisfy IV members.
filling up bills with each and every single problem has taught us some lessons. so we decided to go small to see how it works. every single retro prob has dependancy on others. so as logiclife mentioned solving one will ease the other one or indirectly solve other issues. im not that good in explaining all those, but i can try one.
EG: see the scenario where H1B is not happy seeing H4 not being able to work. If our I-485 filing provision gets through, he/she can apply EAD for his/her dependant and all are happy.
dont always think "H4's cant work" "H4's cant work" "Compare with L1's".
im sure core team might have thought thru about a million times what needs to be done, when and how with all our limitations.
its a matter of just 15 days wait to see what we get. why throw in more and confuse people. dont we have even a little patience?
remember, one thing for sure - every single mistake we do from now on - the waiting punishment may be in years. and its for sure the retrogession will be solved in the future sometime, but no guarantee- in our living time in usa.
pardon me for any grammer / typos. im not used to this kind's big response
remember:
on every bill and every single effort we try to make after all these pains, every single mistake we make will cost us 6 months or more before we re-group educate memebers and others about what we can ask for in the next and satisfy IV members.
filling up bills with each and every single problem has taught us some lessons. so we decided to go small to see how it works. every single retro prob has dependancy on others. so as logiclife mentioned solving one will ease the other one or indirectly solve other issues. im not that good in explaining all those, but i can try one.
EG: see the scenario where H1B is not happy seeing H4 not being able to work. If our I-485 filing provision gets through, he/she can apply EAD for his/her dependant and all are happy.
dont always think "H4's cant work" "H4's cant work" "Compare with L1's".
im sure core team might have thought thru about a million times what needs to be done, when and how with all our limitations.
its a matter of just 15 days wait to see what we get. why throw in more and confuse people. dont we have even a little patience?
remember, one thing for sure - every single mistake we do from now on - the waiting punishment may be in years. and its for sure the retrogession will be solved in the future sometime, but no guarantee- in our living time in usa.
pardon me for any grammer / typos. im not used to this kind's big response
syzygy
02-01 12:17 PM
I agree. Atleast word "Legal" was spoken. I am confident Democrats are well aware and once they come in power they are gonna clear all mess. These all artificial backlogs could not have been created until asked for by some one with political clout. USCIS is just a puppet. Our cause of problem lies somewhere else.
I hope Republicans don't come to power again.
We have to keep doing this... Senetor Obama mentioned 1 line about fixing Legal Immigration process, also both Senators mentioned that ILegal Immigrants will be last in the line of the process so that is a huge progress for us... These candidates have an army of people working for them, they do a lot of research go to forums, go to debate websites to see what are the pain-points, if we can get our questions in top 10 in every debate now on then Legal immigration will be in the spot light, that is half the battle won... regardless who is chosen by voters they will all have legal immigration on their agenda. Good job guys! Keep posting the questions we will make this issue popular!
I hope Republicans don't come to power again.
We have to keep doing this... Senetor Obama mentioned 1 line about fixing Legal Immigration process, also both Senators mentioned that ILegal Immigrants will be last in the line of the process so that is a huge progress for us... These candidates have an army of people working for them, they do a lot of research go to forums, go to debate websites to see what are the pain-points, if we can get our questions in top 10 in every debate now on then Legal immigration will be in the spot light, that is half the battle won... regardless who is chosen by voters they will all have legal immigration on their agenda. Good job guys! Keep posting the questions we will make this issue popular!
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